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Peace river-I’m thinkin’ horsie?


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Found this two days ago in the peace river.  I’m thinking horse, but I’m about to move and my fossil id books are packed up(cardinal sin, I know.)  Lemme know what you guys think.  Thanks in advance.

 

-J

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Josh, where did you say you were moving to?  They'd better have some good Cajun food wherever it is. ;)

 

 

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1 hour ago, caldigger said:

Josh, where did you say you were moving to?  They'd better have some good Cajun food whereever it is. ;)

Ft. Collins, Colorado.  And that’s like what @Bone Daddy keeps saying.  There is a group of people in Colorado that are about to experience legit Cajun cooking, and they have no idea.  Lol

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After the move, Josh's posts in this ID forum will be for dinosaur bones and teeth.  :)

 

And yeah, there are some Colorado folks who are going to be spoiled for real seafood and they don't know it yet.

 

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40 minutes ago, Harry Pristis said:

 

Sorry.  I don't know what it is . . . looks pathological on the anterior side, but again, I'm not certain.

 

 

 

Hi Harry,

 

Going with pathological, could that be a tarsometatarsus of a very large bird?

 

Jess

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2 hours ago, Bone Daddy said:

Any chance this could be human?

 

I do see that the top aspect looks similar to a human distal humerus, and the other photo is similar to the occipital...but the morphology appears inconsistent, and too thick to be human.

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So, we are in a pickle.  No legit stabs at this one eh?  These are my favorite kinds of fossils :)

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14 hours ago, siteseer said:

 

Hi Harry,

Going with pathological, could that be a tarsometatarsus of a very large bird?

Jess

 

I don't think it's a bird, Jess.  If we agree this is a distal humerus, then birds have distinctive trochlea.

 

The overall shape of the trochlea reminds me of mustelid, but the size is off for a mustelid.  My second thought was Casteroides, the giant beaver.  I don't think it's Holmesina, the giant armadillo.

 

Question for Joshua:  Is there any indication of an entepicondylar foramen on the broken edge of the bone?  Look for a smooth

(cortex) patch within the broken surface.  Such a foramen would narrow the guesswork substantially.     

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What seest thou else

In the dark backward and abysm of time?

---Shakespeare, The Tempest

 

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11 minutes ago, Harry Pristis said:

 

I don't think it's a bird, Jess.  If we agree this is a distal humerus, then birds have distinctive trochlea.

 

The overall shape of the trochlea reminds me of mustelid, but the size is off for a mustelid.  My second thought was Casteroides, the giant beaver.  I don't think it's Holmesina, the giant armadillo.

 

Question for Joshua:  Is there any indication of an entepicondylar foramen on the broken edge of the bone?  Look for a smooth

(cortex) patch within the broken surface.  Such a foramen would narrow the guesswork substantially.     

There may have been, if there was it was completely broken off.  Now that I’m looking at it, there does appear to be a evidence of a entepicondylar foramen.

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I can't see the evidence of an entepicondylar formamen, Joshua; but giant armadillos and mustelids do have an eef, while beavers don't.

 

This is an unusual find, perhaps because of wear.  Perhaps it's a rare find.  In either case, you should send your images to Richard Hulbert at the Florida State Museum for his opinion.  Let us know what you find out.

 

 

http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page

 

What seest thou else

In the dark backward and abysm of time?

---Shakespeare, The Tempest

 

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Yeah, a friend of mine is running it by him tomorrow.  Hopefully, we can shed some light on this one.

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