Maxsg Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 So I found this bone in miocene area where I normally hunt for sharks teeth, this was found in a big gravel bed where I was finding turtle shell pieces, dugong bones, a few sharks teeth here and there, part of a big vert that ill post later, as well as many bone parts that I can't identify. However this bone is the most interesting thing I have pulled from this spot. At first I thought it was dugong because that's most of what I find. But then I noticed it was hollow in the shaft of the bone making me question what it could be because as far as I know the only things with hollow bones are birds. Any and all help would be amazing because I am lost. Ps: I'm sorry the colors are so blown out. I raised the exposure on the images because the fossil is so dark it was hard to see details in the pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bone Daddy Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 This looks familiar. I know I have seen one like this before, but I don't recall what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Hollow, yes, but the walls are too thick to be avian. I love the patina! "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxsg Posted June 5, 2019 Author Share Posted June 5, 2019 What could it be then. If not avian than what else could have hollow bones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 15 minutes ago, Maxsg said: What could it be then. If not avian than what else could have hollow bones? Now don't beat me up for suggesting this, but bone marrow was/ is considered a delicacy amongst many native peoples. It may very well have been scavenged for that sweet marrow sometime in the distant past. Might those be scrape marks? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxsg Posted June 5, 2019 Author Share Posted June 5, 2019 Beat you up, why? if that was the cause of the hollow bone that would be amazing. But could it have been human tampering when I found it in an area that has mostly aquatic fossils. Granted I do find mammal teeth very rarely as well as mastadon enamel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 This may not be from Miocene/Pliocene just because it is found in an area with such aged fossils. Many things are discarded or washed in rivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemipristis Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 On 6/6/2019 at 8:15 AM, Auspex said: Hollow, yes, but the walls are too thick to be avian. I love the patina! How about a large ground-dwelling bird? (I have no idea, as birds aren't my forte, but it does resemble the bird femurs that I'm seeing online--- just a thought) 'Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.' George Santayana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 I'm on the mammal camp for your bone. Maybe this topic will help: Cool find! Max Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 On 6/8/2019 at 1:53 AM, hemipristis said: How about a large ground-dwelling bird? (I have no idea, as birds aren't my forte, but it does resemble the bird femurs that I'm seeing online--- just a thought) Titanis would be wonderful, but nothing in that species skeleton is a match. It seems more 'mammaly' to me. 1 "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bone Daddy Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Deer and horse are likely candidates. I went back through my photos looking for this one, but I couldn't find it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxsg Posted June 9, 2019 Author Share Posted June 9, 2019 Yea I went back to that spot a few days ago and I found a few deer teeth. It's likely deer. I wish it were Titanis but I know that finding bones from them are very rare and I couldn't find a proper reference image for Titanis bones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Maxsg said: Yea I went back to that spot a few days ago and I found a few deer teeth. It's likely deer. I wish it were Titanis but I know that finding bones from them are very rare and I couldn't find a proper reference image for Titanis bones. The T. walleri bones small enough to fit the profile of your specimen have robust shafts. Yours is rather gracile by comparison. Here is a pedal phalanx (toe bone): Pretty ruggedly built! "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxsg Posted June 10, 2019 Author Share Posted June 10, 2019 I appreciate the reference to go off of in the future thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 The fragment is a deer distal humerus. The cancellous interior has been removed by some organism after death. 1 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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