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Thefossilman92

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Hi!
I have a rather big croc tooth from kem kem and I was wondering if it could be a Elosuchus tooth because of its size? or should I just label it as Croc indet? :)


 

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Looks more like Spinosauridae indet. to me. But yeah, crocs with teeth this big are likely Elosuchus, however who knows what else might be there undescribed

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6 minutes ago, LordTrilobite said:

Yup, Spinosauridae indet.

Not croc.

Alright, so youre sure its not croc? :) The Short crown and the heavy faceted surface fooled me otherwise

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1 minute ago, Thefossilman92 said:

Alright, so youre sure its not croc? :) The Short crown and the heavy faceted surface fooled me otherwise

It looks much too slender for croc. Elosuchus has teeth more like fat thumbs.

Spinosauridae teeth range from heavily faceted on both or either side to completely smooth.

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5 minutes ago, LordTrilobite said:

It looks much too slender for croc. Elosuchus has teeth more like fat thumbs.

Spinosauridae teeth range from heavily faceted on both or either side to completely smooth.

Okay, I understand what you mean and I dont have any doubts about your knowledge, I just felt like this could be a tooth from a certain position of a crocs jaw, thanks for the help :)

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40 minutes ago, Thefossilman92 said:

Okay, I understand what you mean and I dont have any doubts about your knowledge, I just felt like this could be a tooth from a certain position of a crocs jaw, thanks for the help :)

Well crocs like Hamadasuchus does have teeth that differ a lot depending on tooth position. But that animal isn't as big as Elosuchus. But maybe smaller Spinosaurid teeth could be mistaken for those.

 

Here are some Elosuchus examples:

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And some Hamadasuchus examples:

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10 minutes ago, LordTrilobite said:

Well crocs like Hamadasuchus does have teeth that differ a lot depending on tooth position. But that animal isn't as big as Elosuchus. But maybe smaller Spinosaurid teeth could be mistaken for those.

 

Here are some Elosuchus examples:

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And some Hamadasuchus examples:

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Thanks for the info. I have a brunch of small croc teeth as well and some of them are serrated. Is there anyway to narrow down croc teeth to species from morocco or is it a hopeless case?

 

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You might find one that is a good match but there's still a lot about Kem Kem we don't know.

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18 hours ago, LordTrilobite said:

You might find one that is a good match but there's still a lot about Kem Kem we don't know.

How about this One? It got serrations 

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2 minutes ago, Thefossilman92 said:

How about this One? It got serrations 

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I'd say likely Elosuchus. I think it's got serrations, but I'm not sure. The shape definitely fits though.

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3 minutes ago, LordTrilobite said:

I'd say likely Elosuchus. I think it's got serrations, but I'm not sure. The shape definitely fits though.

Okay Thanks! 

Heres another tooth who also got serrations but is very oddly shaped

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1 minute ago, Thefossilman92 said:

Okay Thanks! 

Heres another tooth who also got serrations but is very oddly shaped

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That looks like be a partial Carcharodontosaurid tooth.

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7 minutes ago, LordTrilobite said:

That looks like be a partial Carcharodontosaurid tooth.

Okay, but its very triangular and has a different shape than the carch teeth ive seen

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But I guess its not impossible that it could be a just a tip of a carcharodontosaurid tooth

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9 minutes ago, Thefossilman92 said:

But I guess its not impossible that it could be a just a tip of a carcharodontosaurid tooth

Here's an example from my collection.

 

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Ok in this order.

Spinosaurini sp (looks to have a little fill at the tip of the tooth, which is more than likely just feeding wear)

Elosuchus cherifiensis

Carcharadontosaurid indet (section of the tip)

 

Hope this helps.

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On 2019-06-07 at 10:10 PM, Haravex said:

Ok in this order.

Spinosaurini sp (looks to have a little fill at the tip of the tooth, which is more than likely just feeding wear)

Elosuchus cherifiensis

Carcharadontosaurid indet (section of the tip)

 

Hope this helps.

thanks!

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I'll just throw in my rooted Elosuchus cherifiensis tooth from KemKem for comparison

 

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3 minutes ago, Abstraktum said:

I'll just throw in my rooted Elosuchus cherifiensis tooth from KemKem for comparison

 

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On 2019-06-07 at 10:10 PM, Haravex said:

Ok in this order.

Spinosaurini sp (looks to have a little fill at the tip of the tooth, which is more than likely just feeding wear)

Elosuchus cherifiensis

Carcharadontosaurid indet (section of the tip)

 

Hope this helps.

What do you think about this croc tooth?

 

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