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Large Mammal Pelvis & Sacrum; Sand Hills, Neb.

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diginupbones

 Hi all, I thought I would start off with my most recent find and one that has been making me crazy trying to figure out what it is. It is obviously a pelvic area from some mammal.  The rear part of it looks like mammoth but  I can’t find anything on the web that looks like that front area with the beaklike bone.  My first attempt at posting pics on here so hopefully this works.  I realize it is upside down but it is too delicate to flip over  

 

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hndmarshall

They all seem or at least most, to be some sort of Pelvic anatomy of what not sure ...the bones appear to need a bit more putting together or possible re arranging I think

 

Lets see what others think......

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diginupbones

 Here’s a pic of what it looked like before it was removed from the ground. I re-assembled it exactly the way it was lying when I found it.  I’m not sure exactly where the sacrum area connects, that’s  what has me scratching my head.  The lighter colored bones were the only things exposed when I spotted it 

 

 

 

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diginupbones

 My first post and I can’t get one person to help me with this thing?  I’m not feeling the love here! Please tell me if there something wrong with my post 

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ynot
12 minutes ago, diginupbones said:

 My first post and I can’t get one person to help me with this thing?  I’m not feeling the love here! Please tell me if there something wrong with my post 

Have some patience, not all members sign on every day.

@Harry Pristis

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BobWill

I think most of us are anticipating a good answer just like you. The answer will come. Be proud you have found something not so common to be that easy.

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diginupbones

 Very good point! I hadn’t  thought of it that way. Like my title says, this thing has been bugging the heck out of me.

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caldigger

Where was this found and do you know the age of the deposit?

Please give as much information on finds as to locality and such because it really helps to narrow down possibilities.

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diginupbones

 This was found in the Sand Hills region of Nebraska. Not sure of exact age of deposit where I found this but the sand hills were formed 5000 to 8000 years ago.  This was located in a washout area leading to a river. This area also contains tons of fossilized pieces of bone  and teeth, lots of tortoise shell  pieces  and many flint  chips.  I also found a couple of stone scrapers and a knife that was carved out of a piece of bone.  The sand deposit that these bones were found in were so hard I had to use a  tile spade to slowly chip around them.  Most of the bones found in the Sand Hills are bison, mammoth, camel and horse.  Hope this helps 

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diginupbones

Gomphothere  might be more likely than mammoth since they were quite a bit smaller.  It would be nice to see some more detailed photos or drawings of the pelvic area but I have been unable to find those.  Does anyone know of a good source to find something like that?  That small bone in the front or top of the pelvis is really unusual I have never seen something like that, I thought that might be a good clue.

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diginupbones

 Any more input on this before I put it to bed? 

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abyssunder

This one looks like a sacral bone, to me, the others may be the adjacent bones.

 

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diginupbones

I had to bring this back from the dead and give it one last try :zzzzscratchchin:

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Mark Kmiecik
8 hours ago, diginupbones said:

I had to bring this back from the dead and give it one last try :zzzzscratchchin:

I was hoping for an ID on this also. Don't give up yet -- there's 28,000 members! Lots of the folks who know may be out on digs, or in the field collecting. 'Tis the season, you know. Another option is to show it to someone at a natural history museum who may know, or has contact with those who do.

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Auspex

I retitled the topic so as to maybe attract the right eyes.
(The original didn't say anything to catch the eye of a mammal expert).

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fossilus

The sacrum is only slightly larger than bison and llama sacrums that I've collected in TX.  It looks different than each of these but you might look at those sized animals, maybe moose or elk?

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jpc

As someone else suggested up above, I was in the field when this was posted, and yes, auspex, the Mammal in the title caught my eye. 

 

This certainly looks elephanty.  Size suggests gomphothere, as does the age of the rocks under the Sand Hills..  I think that area is primarily Miocene... a period when NE was full of all sorts of crazy elephant things.  Gomphothere is my semi-educated guess.  Nice find.  

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jpc
On 6/18/2019 at 4:50 PM, abyssunder said:

This one looks like a sacral bone, to me, the others may be the adjacent bones.

 

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Yes, sacrum.

 

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fossilus
3 hours ago, jpc said:

 

 

This certainly looks elephanty.  Size suggests gomphothere, as does the age of the rocks under the Sand Hills..  I think that area is primarily Miocene... a period when NE was full of all sorts of crazy elephant things.  Gomphothere is my semi-educated guess.  Nice find.  

 

Does look probuscan.

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