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Does anyone have any idea what this might be?  Found it, and another one very similar, in the Creede Formation of Creede, Colorado.  Sorry that I did not put in a scale; it is approx. 3" in diameter.  The center circle has radiating lines.  From that circle there are several concentric rings.  From what I have read, the site was a salty lake formed in the Creede Caldera.  Most of the fossils are plants and the sediment is fine grained volcanic ash.

 

Almost looks like a jellyfish to me.

 

Any I.D. will be much appreciated.  I am stumped.

 

Thanks,

 

ODK

 

 

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Looks like a concretion, with some breakage spalling on the top to me. 

Are Jellyfish known from that formation?  :unsure: 

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No, it's lacustrine, a caldera lake deposit, I think, plants and insects, mostly. 

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Hi Tim,

 

Not of which I am aware.  I just attached the second one.

 

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The concentric layers are diagnostic to concretions/nodules. 

Sometimes, nodules/concretions can contain fossils. You might try the freeze/thaw method, or whacking (Carefully)  on the side with a hammer. 

Search the Forum for Freeze/Thaw method.  :) 

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Thanks Fossildude,

 

I have used freeze thaw on Mason Creek siderite nodules.  The Creede specimens are not actually nodules.  They are relatively thin.  More like impressions of a module than a nodule itself.

 

Bummed that they are not biogenetic.  But still cool.

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1 hour ago, Osteodontokeratic said:

Bummed that they are not biogenetic.

If it were to be caused by a methane eruption that might be considered biogenic in a way.

It happens.  ;)

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3 hours ago, Fossildude19 said:

The concentric layers are diagnostic to concretions/nodules. 

Sometimes, nodules/concretions can contain fossils. You might try the freeze/thaw method, or whacking (Carefully)  on the side with a hammer. 

Search the Forum for Freeze/Thaw method.  :) 

 

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3 hours ago, Osteodontokeratic said:

Thanks Fossildude,

 

I have used freeze thaw on Mason Creek siderite nodules.  The Creede specimens are not actually nodules.  They are relatively thin.  More like impressions of a module than a nodule itself.

 

Bummed that they are not biogenetic.  But still cool.

 

They could be termed lens, in this case. 

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Will see if I can get a side photo.  Will not be till next week though.

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I took a photo of the side of each specimen and the back of the larger one. The back of the smaller one was similar.

 

ODK

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Seams to be restricted to the one layer, so not a concretion structure or gas escape feature.

Jelly fish or algae is looking more likely to Me.

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3 hours ago, ynot said:

Seams to be restricted to the one layer, so not a concretion structure or gas escape feature.

You mean these never just stop, or have their surface erode as they are covered ? 

I would think it most common.

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They remain an enigma to me.  I was struck by the radial symmetry similarity between the two.

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18 minutes ago, Osteodontokeratic said:

They remain an enigma to me.  I was struck by the radial symmetry similarity between the two.

I’ve been going through my fossil books and online off and on since you first posted these and the closest things I have found that looks like them are jellyfish. But the location argues against it. But if it was from a location where they were known I’d have put money on The jellyfish ID. But I agree I love the look of them!

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Jellyfish was my first thought, especially after learning that there are fresh water jellyfish, but now am at a total loss as to what they might be.

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