Dylanmacnish Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Hello everyone, I’m looking at a partial triceratops frill with tooth in original matrix. I only have very little experience with teeth and vertebrae. Would love to know what everyone’s thoughts are on it and if this is authentic or not? Wyoming, montana Hell Creek formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Looks like Ceratopsian frill, veining and thickness looks right, however there no way to determine if its Triceratops. Where is the tooth? Looks like Lance Fm, Wy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylanmacnish Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 I was also looking at this one. Does this look like a much more convincing specimen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 That looks more like a broken bone too smooth 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylanmacnish Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 Thank you very much Troodon, Its hard to trust online sellers these days. I might take a break from buying and try my hand at legal fossil hunting. It’s too bad i live in western australia. It makes things a tad difficult. Ill do some research to find some good locations. Also you asked about the tooth, It’s the shiny black thing on the back of the matrix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Not sure thats a tooth looks awfully flat. Could be a gar fish scale. I think its good practice for all collectors to verify what they are buying and dont accept what is listed I just see to many misidentified items. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggycardon Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Dylanmacnish said: Also you asked about the tooth, It’s the shiny black thing on the back of the matrix. Looks like a fish scale to me, might be Lepisosteus EDIT: Troodon beat me to it 2 Interested in all things paleontology, geology, zoology, evolution, natural history and science! Professional exotic pet keeper, huge fantasy geek, explorer of the microfossil realm, member of the BVP (Belgian Association for Paleontology), Volunteer prepper at Oertijdmuseum Boxtel. View my collection topic here: The Growing Collection of Ziggycardon My animal collection at the "Members pet" topic Ziggycardon's exploration of the microfossil realm Trips to Eben Emael (Maastrichtian of Belgium) My latest fossil hunt Next project will be a dedicated prepping space. "A mind needs books as a sword needs a whetstone, if it is to keep its edge." - Tyrion Lannister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylanmacnish Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 Yes it does look like a scale. Does it still look like a Ceratopsian frill. If it does I’ll offer the seller a lower amount. How does a scale and frill and up in such close proximity? How did this happen, maybe the animal died near a water source or could they be separated in time by a few layers of rock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Please refrain from posting anything but pictures from online sellers. Most fossils are made due to being in water at some time. Gars apparently shed their scales fairly frequently. It would not be unusual to find fish scales with other fossils. 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Lots of what you see sold from these formations come from channel deposits and its very common to see gar fish scales. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pemphix Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 More on Lance and the channel deposits, taphonomy etc. here to read for example: https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/ab7b/a7eb822e608b73a2f7195b3c1e0bc960766d.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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