LeviBess Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Hi! So I am totally a newbie on the subject and would really like to have your help identifying these fossils i found on the beach between Villers-sur-mer and Houlgate in Normandie, Thanks in advance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggycardon Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 12 is a fossil oyster (Rastellum gregareum) I don't know the rest of the exact species but perhaps this could help you out https://english.fossiel.net/id_system/species_list.php?plaats=68 Interested in all things paleontology, geology, zoology, evolution, natural history and science! Professional exotic pet keeper, huge fantasy geek, explorer of the microfossil realm, member of the BVP (Belgian Association for Paleontology), Volunteer prepper at Oertijdmuseum Boxtel. View my collection topic here: The Growing Collection of Ziggycardon My animal collection at the "Members pet" topic Ziggycardon's exploration of the microfossil realm Trips to Eben Emael (Maastrichtian of Belgium) My latest fossil hunt Next project will be a dedicated prepping space. "A mind needs books as a sword needs a whetstone, if it is to keep its edge." - Tyrion Lannister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviBess Posted August 2, 2019 Author Share Posted August 2, 2019 Thank you for your answer, i looked at the link you sent and found some of them but a lot of them is still a mystery to me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviBess Posted August 2, 2019 Author Share Posted August 2, 2019 some close ups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kmiecik Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 #9 and #10 are nautiloids. #18 may be an echinoid spine. Mark. Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviBess Posted August 2, 2019 Author Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) Thank you for your message, i really appreciate everyone taking their time to answer me. I was suspecting nr 18 to be a "pique d'oursin" (echinoid spine) like you said so thats great. Nautiloids is that some kind of ammonite? Do you think this is an ammonite? its quite large like 10x10 cm Edited August 2, 2019 by LeviBess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connorp Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 #1 appears to be a bivalve imprint. #2 is a coral that I've seen before, although the type escapes me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviBess Posted August 3, 2019 Author Share Posted August 3, 2019 Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMert Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 2 and 4 are both weathered bivalves. 1, 3, 5, 12, 15 and 19 too (though the last one could be a brachiopod). 11,13 belemnites? (can even be bivalves too, need more pics). 17 and 18 more interesting, need pics again:) My sites & reports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calli99 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 16 hours ago, krabbhus said: Nautiloids is that some kind of ammonite? Do you think this is an ammonite? its quite large like 10x10 cm Nautiloids and ammonites are similar, both are cephalopods, however, ammonites are extinct but we still have nautiloids today. You can tell very clearly in no. 9 that it is a nautilus from the chambers. Nautiloids have very simple chamber walls (septa) with a siphuncle (tube to remove water for buoyancy) that runs through the middle of the chambers (you can see this in the middle of the chambers on no. 9). In contrast, ammonites have very complex septa so instead of the smoothly curved suture lines seen on no. 9, they would be very squiggly. This is thought to be so that the ammonites could survive at lower depths with their thin shells, while nautili have thicker shells so do not need complex septa. Also, the siphuncle in ammonites ran along the outside edge. No. 14 is an ammonite (I think) as I can just about see some complex suture lines (I think). You got some cool stuff! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 #4 looks close to a very worn trigoniidae. " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviBess Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 Thanks everyone for your responses I’m going to take notes. And also try to post more angles. Does anyone know of a good fossil book for beginners? and does someone have any guess on nr 3,6 and 11? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviBess Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 On 8/3/2019 at 4:27 PM, Calli99 said: Nautiloids and ammonites are similar, both are cephalopods, however, ammonites are extinct but we still have nautiloids today. You can tell very clearly in no. 9 that it is a nautilus from the chambers. Nautiloids have very simple chamber walls (septa) with a siphuncle (tube to remove water for buoyancy) that runs through the middle of the chambers (you can see this in the middle of the chambers on no. 9). In contrast, ammonites have very complex septa so instead of the smoothly curved suture lines seen on no. 9, they would be very squiggly. This is thought to be so that the ammonites could survive at lower depths with their thin shells, while nautili have thicker shells so do not need complex septa. Also, the siphuncle in ammonites ran along the outside edge. No. 14 is an ammonite (I think) as I can just about see some complex suture lines (I think). You got some cool stuff! Wow thank you for all this information. I think its an ammonite like you say but it also has another pattern on it..a bit like little leafs? You know anything about that? it shows more when its wet so i put some water on. I will try to prep some of my fossils since I havent done this i guess you will se more details then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LeviBess Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 hour ago, krabbhus said: No. 14 is an ammonite (I think) as I can just about see some complex suture lines (I think). ah now i got it, the "leaf like" lines im asking about are these suture lines, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviBess Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 I saw that someone thought number 3 was a weathered bivalve? maybe the first pic was too blurry because I think it is an imprint of something, but what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reese the Rockhound Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Number 15 is a Gryphaea oyster. The second specimen in the set of close-ups might be a worn-down Ptychodus tooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviBess Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 19 minutes ago, Reese the Rockhound said: Number 15 is a Gryphaea oyster. The second specimen in the set of close-ups might be a worn-down Ptychodus tooth. yes its called devils toenail as well i read, i saw a lot of them on the beach seems to be really common. Thats so cool if it is a shark tooth (to me), I know most of my fossils are really worn down cause they were all found on the beach, inbetween rocks and cliffs etc already separated from whatever they had been securly embedded in. Im actually going back to vaches noires in 2 weeks so maybe i will try to look for fossils that are still in the mudstone(?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calli99 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 12 hours ago, krabbhus said: ah now i got it, the "leaf like" lines im asking about are these suture lines, right? Yes that's correct. Not sure about your other stuff I'm afraid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 4 : i agree with Trigonia 15 : i agree with Gryphea 5 : a kind of Oyster "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 15 hours ago, krabbhus said: Thanks everyone for your responses I’m going to take notes. And also try to post more angles. Does anyone know of a good fossil book for beginners? and does someone have any guess on nr 3,6 and 11? An excellent guide for all french beginners : Jean-Claude Fischer "Guide des fossiles de France et des régions limitrophes". The third edition has been printed in 2016 by Dunod, see this link. 3 : looks to be an imprint of Trigonia 11 : a bivalve Solenidae "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 18 : a Cidarid urchin spine 6 : could be a sponge or a concretion, more pics from all its sides would be welcomed. "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 20 : Lopha Oyster (or Rastellum, their name have often been changed). If i remember well, Villers sur Mer is Oxfordian ? "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Maybe @Manticocerasman and @Natalie81 would have more ideas on your items. You can also see this : http://gendrydamien.pagesperso-orange.fr/page/villers.htm 1 "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 #4 is a Myophorella, a bivalve belonging to the order Trigonioida. Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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