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Hunt for Oligocene stuff in the Carpathian Mountains

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Last weekend I went for a very short trip to the Carpathian Mountains, to find some Oligocene stuff. Every year it becomes more and more difficult to find nice complete specimens, because the locations are (unfortunately :P) quite easily accessible and therefore there are plenty of fossil hunters (especially now during holidays). 

The first location is situated close to the place we commonly refer to as the Polish Texas :), called Bóbrka - it is the world's oldest (and still operating) oil mine.  https://bobrka.pl/en/about-the-museum/

Nowadays it operates also as a museum, where you can see old drilling equipment and see the well up close 

 

 

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The location is called Rogi:

 

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Kasia

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On the bottom of this piece (the largest one), there are some weird remains - could be coprolites or? I'm puzzled, one of them looks a bit like a Xmas tree :)

 

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minnbuckeye
34 minutes ago, Kasia said:

therefore there are plenty of fossil hunters (especially now during holidays)

 

Nice report!! Looks like you did VERY well. Those fish are exquisite in spite of missing a little here and there. In the USA, August is one of the few months we do not have some holiday. What are you celebrating now??

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Fossildude19

Excellent report! :wub:  :) 

Thanks for taking us along.

 

The set of jaws looks interesting. 

The "Christmas Tree" looking item could either be coprolite, or some sort of conifer twig. 

Are plants known from the locality? 

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Kasia

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The last place was situated right at the national road, so I was trying to remain as invisible as I could, in order not to attract the police:

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The rocks here are completely different than in the previous locations. Here are some of the finds - I guess these are pieces of bones:

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Kasia

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Apologies for the quality of pictures, but the colours of the rock make it very difficult for my phone camera to get proper focus :)

 

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sharkdoctor

Great report! Looks like you had a lot of fun and bagged lots of great specimens! I love the "pretty mess" plates. I wonder if those were fish that had longer to decompose and fall apart or were fed on?

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Kasia
9 minutes ago, minnbuckeye said:

 

Nice report!! Looks like you did VERY well. Those fish are exquisite in spite of missing a little here and there. In the USA, August is one of the few months we do not have some holiday. What are you celebrating now??

Thanks :) I can't wait until the large chunks come back to me cleaned from the yellow dust.

July and August are summer holidays for the students of elementary, secondary schools and universities - and most of people also take holidays during this time, if they choose to spend them in the country. 

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Kasia
8 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said:

Excellent report! :wub:  :) 

Thanks for taking us along.

 

The set of jaws looks interesting. 

The "Christmas Tree" looking item could either be coprolite, or some sort of conifer twig. 

Are plants known from the locality? 

Thanks :)

 

I found also a single tooth - image.png.2dd5469890a75f5864b096a3c3d772cc.png

 

I haven't heard about any plants from this location - this particular Xmas tree is a little 3D, I don't know if you can see it better on this picture. 

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Kasia
8 minutes ago, sharkdoctor said:

Great report! Looks like you had a lot of fun and bagged lots of great specimens! I love the "pretty mess" plates. I wonder if those were fish that had longer to decompose and fall apart or were fed on?

Thanks, I like them too :) That's why I collected quite a lot of them. They seem like a mixture of scales and some other organic matter, so most probably the decomposing process lasted a bit longer than usual. 

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sharkdoctor

Any chance it is coprolite that sat in the water and got worn apart by the motion of the water? 

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Fossildude19
2 hours ago, Kasia said:

this particular Xmas tree is a little 3D, I don't know if you can see it better on this picture. 

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In this picture, it actually looks more like a few articulated vertebra and hypural from a fish. 

 

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Mark Kmiecik
3 hours ago, minnbuckeye said:

 

Nice report!! Looks like you did VERY well. Those fish are exquisite in spite of missing a little here and there. In the USA, August is one of the few months we do not have some holiday. What are you celebrating now??

In British (European) English, the word holiday is synonymous with vacation. It can also refer to weekend trips. Basically if you are away from home but not for work reasons, you are on holiday.

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Kasia
43 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said:

In this picture, it actually looks more like a few articulated vertebra and hypural from a fish. 

 

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It would be really awesome :)

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Kasia
1 hour ago, sharkdoctor said:

Any chance it is coprolite that sat in the water and got worn apart by the motion of the water? 

We would have to ask our Queen of Coprolites - Lori @GeschWhat - I'm sure she can shed some light on this matter :) 

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Ludwigia

Thanks for the tour. I always find it interesting to be able to learn a bit about places I've never had a chance to visit.

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Kasia
2 minutes ago, Ludwigia said:

Thanks for the tour. I always find it interesting to be able to learn a bit about places I've never had a chance to visit.

It's my pleasure to show a little bit of my country to the Forum and possibly encourage some members to pay a visit :) It's not that far from you, actually :P

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abyssunder

If the fishes are there, the coprolites might be associated with them. :)
Nice trip report with relevant pictures! I love it! Thank you for this!  :dinothumb:

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Coco

Nice report Kasia ! Thanks !

 

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