Frauke Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Hello, I inherited a 3 inch fossil from my father and would love to know what it is. I don't know where this fossil came from but it looks like some kind of barnacle or something similar. It is brown rock on the bottom and crystallized on top. I have attached several pictures and would be really grateful for any information. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Lobolith ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Looks like some sort of echinoid, to me. Worn and poorly preserved. Photo from HERE. 4 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 I'd say that's about right,Tim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 some of you may like: The_infaunal_echinoid_Micraster_taphonom.pdf geobios 41,2008 The infaunal echinoid Micraster: taphonomic pathways indicated by sclerozoan trace and body fossils from the Upper Cretaceous of Spain Samuel Zamora,Eduardo Mayoral,Jose A Gamez Vintaned,Sergio Bajo,Eduardo Espilez* all diacritics omitted 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Im with echinoid too. RB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TqB Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 I agree echinoid - it looks very like some Cretaceous flint Echinocorys scutata specimens (so internal mould), with some unusual and beautiful internal crystallisation at the top. Google: flint Echinocorys scutata 3 Tarquin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilNerd Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 It may be worn, and the external features poorly preserved, but that is some beautifully crystallized internal structure! 2 The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it. -Neil deGrasse Tyson Everyone you will ever meet knows something you don't. -Bill Nye (The Science Guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson g Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Wow how unique. I would treasure it more than any complete echinoid, especially being the family treasure it is! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frauke Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 Thank you so much to everyone for your comments, help, and information! I really love this fossil and am excited to find out more about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TqB Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 I'm intrigued by the inked script but I'm no good at languages - maybe Greek? 1 Tarquin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frauke Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 TbQ, I don't know what language it is either. That's partly why I included the writing in the pictures. But I think one of the words kind of looks like Krakow, which is in Poland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TqB Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Frauke said: TbQ, I don't know what language it is either. That's partly why I included the writing in the pictures. But I think one of the words kind of looks like Krakow, which is in Poland. I noticed that one too. Echinocorys certainly is common in Poland. Maybe someone more linguistic will chime in - they don't all look like Roman characters. 1 Tarquin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Ammonite Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 @Frauke Please send us another photo of the script that is better lit and has better detail. We probably can translate this. Can you read any of this. See next post for better photo. @Kasia 1 My goal is to leave no stone or fossil unturned. See my Arizona Paleontology Guide link The best single resource for Arizona paleontology anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frauke Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 hours ago, DPS Ammonite said: @Frauke Please send us another photo of the script that is better lit and has better detail. We probably can translate this. I hope this is better. Let me know if I need to re-do the picture. Thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 I think the last bit is Lam for Lamarck. A hunt for echinoids ending in ....oratus named by Lamarck is on 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dryptosaur Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Perhaps Ananchytes oratus Lamarck 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasia Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 12 hours ago, DPS Ammonite said: @Frauke Please send us another photo of the script that is better lit and has better detail. We probably can translate this. Can you read any of this. See next post for better photo. @Kasia 9 hours ago, Frauke said: I hope this is better. Let me know if I need to re-do the picture. Thanks! Hi, it's not Polish - to me it looks like Greek alphabet - and the location seems to be Knossos, in Crete. The name of echinoid starts with "A" and ends with "tus" and then follows "Lam", like already someone pointed out. I hope it helps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TqB Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 I think it's standard Roman script after all and says Ananchytes ovatus Lam. (not sure about the ending of the genus - maybe -ius or -yus, there are some variations but this is the commonest and is the correct one). Kudos to @Dryptosaur! Ananchytes Lamarck 1816 is a subjective junior synonym of Echinocorys Leske, 1778. Lamarck's type species was Echinocorys ovatus Leske 1778 -see link: NHM Ananchytes . This is now probably to be included in Echinocorys scutatus Leske 1778. NHM Echinocorys The location could be a spelling of Kraków (Krackow?), which has Upper Cretaceous deposits. At some point, someone has corrected the gender of the specific name. So, Echinocorys scutata, maybe from Kraków, looks good . 3 Tarquin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 below: (translated and possibly transliterated by yours truly: A test of Echinocorys with incisions,their origin and sediment-petrographical meaning,with special reference to the origins of flint klahnechinoidtaphosilexsilicageochemPalaeobiologica_2_0251-0263.pdf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 the Leske volume is old,and does not seem to follow the modern conception of a reference work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 This might be Echinocorys. The reference /legenda are so far removed from this plate that is somewhat difficult to tell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frauke Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 16 hours ago, doushantuo said: below: (translated and possibly transliterated by yours truly: A test of Echinocorys with incisions,their origin and sediment-petrographical meaning,with special reference to the origins of flint klahnechinoidtaphosilexsilicageochemPalaeobiologica_2_0251-0263.pdf Rostock! That is where I was born!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Frauke said: Rostock! That is where I was born!!! This has been a very enjoyable thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johannes Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 @Frauke This is an Upper Cretaceous echinoid Echinocorys. It seems to be a flint cast with a geopetal indicator structure. This special form of preservation among german collectors is called "Wabenigel", because of its honeycombstructure, resulting in a perimorphosis (or coating pseudomorphosis) of calcedony following (now dissolved) calcite crystals growing on the single calcites of the echinoid test plates. Krakau is the old german spelling for Krakov, not Krackow or Krakow... Best regards from my old (and new again) hometown Rostock... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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