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So I was hunting for sharks teeth in my special secret spot not too far from home and I found something very unusual. In this area but not this specific honey hole, I have found fossil (deer bones, deer teeth, muskrat jaws, sand tiger shark teeth, Hemis, Bulls, Lemons, Meg pieces, one beat up small Meg, Mako teeth, and many broken larger shark tooth roots with large cusps on them. I know that cusped teeth are not common in Florida only really the sand tigers have them. Now I know what some people are going to suggest this tooth is. (I have posted a similar tooth to this one before asking for Identification). However this find has excited me so much. This is by far the nicest tooth to come from my special spot and I'm pretty sure its not a Chub Megalodon. Please share this with anyone who can give me a truly positive answer on what this tooth really is. Of all the Megatoothed shark teeth I have found this one is now my most unique. The area that this came out of is very under researched. All maps I have of it state Miocene with notes saying that the area is very data barren and that the sediment is mixed. I'm digging into the clay most of the time here and the colors are usually amazing since the tannin from the river hasn't touched some of these teeth yet. I want all of you'r honest opinions on this tooth. The cusps are well defined with a thick root and a thin tooth. This is also the second tooth of similar size that I have found here with the same cusps. 

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There are Oligocene sediments in Florida, the lower Oligocene Suwanee Limestone and the upper Oligocene Hawthorn Formation if I am correct. So in that aspect the tooth could be an angustidens from the Hawthorne, if the sediments are in the area you were digging.

I do not think it would be from the early Oligocene due to the position of the cusps, but that is not definate.

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behind the trailer, my desert
Them red clay piles are heaven on earth
I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt

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BTW that is a beautiful tooth.

Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt
behind the trailer, my desert
Them red clay piles are heaven on earth
I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt

Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers

 

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Nice score. We don't get many (or any) of those along the Peace. I see them coming out of the streams further north around Gainesville and those parts.

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It's a gorgeous tooth and not at all common from Florida. The FLMNH vertebrate database has a few Carcharocles angustidens listed from Miocene deposits in Polk county (phosphate mine finds).

 

Looking forward to seeing more of your finds.

 

 

Cheers.

 

-Ken

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What a beautiful tooth, looks like you have a very nice spot! Congrats :fistbump:

Every once in a great while it's not just a big rock down there!

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Nice Find!  I haven't come across anything like it.  I am also digging into some heavy clay so maybe there is hope!

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So to add a little to the post. The spot I'm digging has a mix or orange and white clays. The white tends to have more ocean floor dark pebbles in it while the orange tends to have pieces of chert and other similarly colored rocks mixed in. The locality is supposed to be Miocene but like I said there is not much data on the specific area. I have also noticed that this area has a tendency to spit out a lot of full grown sand tiger shark teeth. It's about the only area that I have seen with so many of them. About a quarter mile down stream from this gravel patch is another patch that produces nothing but jet black teeth that look nothing like what I find in the spot I found this tooth in. Its so odd how one area can produce such amazing colors and then the other can be so dull.

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Yup. If you are digging in some colored clay, those colors will reflect the coloration of the teeth. Sounds like there is a lot more phosphate down the creek a bit where the teeth are that lovely gray/black that we know so well. I know of at least one creek that feeds the Peace River where some nicely colored teeth can be found ranging from creams to nice oranges. On occasion, I find the odd brightly colored tooth in the Peace River which likely is freshly washed from its clay matrix.

 

 

Cheers.

 

-Ken

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