Petalodus12 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Hi all. I was wondering if I could get some sort of specific ID on a possible insect wing that I found in the roof shales of a thin coal that is dated to the Late Pennsylvanian or Kasimovian. Fossil plants and some vertebrate material can be found in the same shale. Stratigraphic information: From a roof shale of a thin coal roughly 30 feet below the Brush Creek Limestone of the Glenshaw Formation in the Conemaugh Group. Discovered in the suburbs outside of Pittsburgh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kmiecik Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 I want to say yes, but something about it bugs me. (Pun intended) Not certain if it's the lighting, but something at the bottom right tip of the specimen isn't consistent with the expected location of a wing root. It could be plant material. How large is it? There's no scale reference. Mark. Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Looks like plant material to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyw Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 I agree. It’s giving me a plant vibe.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petalodus12 Posted October 20, 2019 Author Share Posted October 20, 2019 It’s about 1/2 inch long. I can post better pictures of it tomorrow with scale when I get back home. And the bottom of the wing is missing so that may be why it seems odd. And the main reason why it stood out to me as different is that the plants in this layer are carbonized and poorly preserved, while this (even though it is the impression) has relief. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Petalodus12 said: It’s about 1/2 inch long. I can post better pictures of it tomorrow with scale when I get back home. And the bottom of the wing is missing so that may be why it seems odd. And the main reason why it stood out to me as different is that the plants in this layer are carbonized and poorly preserved, while this (even though it is the impression) has Nice find. Early cockroach 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Looks similar to cockroach, to me. 3 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kmiecik Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 I'm in the cockroach camp on this one. Nice find. Mark. Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdp Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Definitely a roach. Nice find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I'm on board with cockroach. Nice find, I'm envious! Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I've never found fossils of insects, you're lucky ! "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimravis Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I would still like to see a close up of this piece. @RCFossils what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCFossils Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Nimravis said: I would still like to see a close up of this piece. @RCFossils what do you think? I would like to see a bit more veination but believe it is a roachoid wing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petalodus12 Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 Here are more pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Petalodus12 Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 I tried my best with pictures, but my phone camera is not the best. And thank you all for the replies, this has all been so helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petalodus12 Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 19 hours ago, fifbrindacier said: I've never found fossils of insects, you're lucky ! Thanks, I was really happy when I found it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilsNS Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 The fossil indeed looks like a wing. I cant tell form the picture, but is there any cross veins preserved on the specimen? I'm no expert, but from what I've heard this can be a helpful hint (if preserved) when distinguishing a plant from a wing. What ever it is... Nice find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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