Troodon Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 New study on Tully Monster "the findings suggest Tullimonstrum could have been an invertebrate" https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/10/300-million-year-old-tully-monster-may-not-be-creature-scientists-thought-it-was 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 They make a compelling case for it being an invert. Thanks for the article. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 Just stay tuned...may change again. Have to wonder the resources and $$$ put forward over the years to study this tiny creature @Fossildude19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 More twists and turns than a well-written mystery novel. Thanks for the link. Cheers. -Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyw Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Thanks for the link! I agree with invertebrate though. The few partial pieces I have have no evidence of bones in them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCFossils Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 I have never been in the vertebrate camp for the Tully Monster. Too many things just do not add up. I would also like to make one correction to the article in the link. Tully Monsters can get quite a bit larger then 15 centimeters. The largest complete example in my collection measures approximately 23 centimeters of outstretched. I have some larger partials and have seen pieces that would suggest maximum size to be over 30 centimeters. Attached is a picture of my largest example. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyw Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 you have A full Tully! Cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Synchrotron X-ray absorption spectroscopy of melanosomes in vertebrates and cephalopods: implications for the affinity of Tullimonstrum Christopher S. Rogers, Timothy I. Astrop, Samuel M. Webb, Shosuke Ito,Kazumasa Wakamatsu and Maria E. McNamara Proc. R. Soc. B 286: 20191649. http://dx.doi.org/10.1098/rspb.2019.1649 rspb.2019.1649.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangellian Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 @RCFossils Holy smokes, that's a nice Tully! I don't recall seeing a better/more detailed (particularly in the tail) example though that might not be saying much compared to guys like you, but I am referring to all the photos I've seen as I've seen a total of 1 in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Indeed! It is a museum-quality Tully if I've ever seen one! Vertebrate or not--that is one enviable fossil! Looking forward to reading more about the debate that seems far from being closed. Cheers. -Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kmiecik Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Don't know how, but I missed this initially. I'm in the invertebrate / possibly protocartilagenous (new word?) skeletal system that has not yet been discovered due to lack of preservation. There is really nothing like this weird creature that has been found anywhere else, and this leads to all sorts of conjecture, some of which has yet to be even suggested. The truth may be entirely unrelated to what we have believed, currently believe or may believe in the future. This is a genuine "freak of nature", and the chance exists that the best we'll ever be capable of is an educated guess. I spent more than 20 years collecting Mazon Creek fossils and have never found even an identifiable fragment of one. The one RCFossils posted is an enviable prize. 1 Mark. Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred97 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Oh my gosh, @RCFossils - that is beautiful! Thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 Follow up article on Tully https://phys.org/news/2019-11-mysterious-tully-monster-fossil.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Wonderful, beautiful and fascinating. An enigma. Top of my bucket list too. Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilNerd Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 13 hours ago, Tidgy's Dad said: Wonderful, beautiful and fascinating. An enigma. Top of my bucket list too. Agreed! It’s on my bucket list as well, but I think my list grows every time I log on to TFF! On 10/24/2019 at 4:59 PM, RCFossils said: Attached is a picture of my largest example. Words... can’t... find... them... 1 The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it. -Neil deGrasse Tyson Everyone you will ever meet knows something you don't. -Bill Nye (The Science Guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolmt Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Definitely a fossil that is on my bucket list with a zero chance of acquiring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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