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Ptychodus04’s Fossil Fish Prepapalooza
FossilDAWG replied to Ptychodus04's topic in Fossil Preparation
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so cool to think that that was swimming in our oceans millions of years ago
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Fossils from central USA. I named this album after the Neutache/Missouria tribe. Please note that I am -not- attempting to 'show off' - This album is for reference purposes. Also, don't hesitate to correct me in any mistakes I made with the ID of these fossils I am mostly posting these here for my own id'ing reference, and for anyone else to use as reference material as well. All photos in this album are under: CC BY-NC license. Feel free to download and use these photos for whatever you please, as long as it's a non-commercial use Thank you, -Jaybot
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Starfish is it real?
Hisairness45 posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
Hello. I'm right now in Morocco, leaving tomorrow from Marrakech. I have a chance to buy this one... is it a real starfish? I bet 85% it is a real s**t but I'm sort of new member of fossil collector. Please tell me if early morning time, before I leave 'Kesh should I buy this thing?
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Ptychodus04’s Fossil Fish Prepapalooza
Ptychodus04 replied to Ptychodus04's topic in Fossil Preparation
This slab was a blast to prep! I only have around 40 more to prep in this lot!
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I think the confusion was on my end I re-read your post and you were perfectly clear! I read some things this afternoon, I wont pull them back up but from my memory I felt responses from members were great. Very non-confrontational. I think the main thing you want to do is what folks already do, and you already mentioned it - just normalize it and convey it is a "happens to the best of us" phenomenon. Unfortunately, because it is probably a deeper, more engrained characteristic with some individuals, no matter how flowery the language some folks will find a way to take offense. Taking offense is actually related to a variety of psychological characteristics, but one I find interesting is concrete thinking versus abstract thinking. Concrete thinkers have an especially hard time taking advice. Even a harder time being corrected. With some folks unfortunately I think its a "I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you" type of thing....
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Congrats Tony!!! I know I've found quite a number of those posts to be useful! I have a feeling there won't be anyone catching up to you and Chas any time soon, the total amount of posts just between you two is more than the combined total of 91.8% of all members, that's over 40,000 members.
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https://historicjamestowne.org/collections/artifacts/sturgeon/
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Great finds Jamie, the site appears to be a great place to collect!
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Great report and finds JamieLynn! So much good stuff! I didn’t realize rostroconches could be found in the Carboniferous. Very cool!
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A Little Bit of Everything - North Carolina
Darktooth replied to bockryan's topic in Fossil Hunting Trips
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Thanks @FossilNerd, that is what I was asking. Sorry for the confusion @nerdsforprez, I should have explained better. I'm trying to find a better way to respond when we get those people who get a little aggressive because we don't see the "petrified snake head" in their rock. When pareidolia is mentioned as the reason they see those things, as you said, some people take offense to that. How do we explain the phenomenon without it coming across as "you're seeing things"? We try to point out that it's a natural thing that we all do, and how it was beneficial to have the ability to recognize patterns, but we often find ourselves on the same dead-end road over and over again. If you search for pareidolia on the forum, I'm sure it will bring up a lot.
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Hello and welcome to the forum from New York! Dave
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Good read and it’s interesting to hear about the phenomenon from a person who deals with pareidolia on a professional level. I think @Fin Lover was asking if you had any suggestions on gentler ways for us to let other folks know that we think they are suffering from a case of pareidolia. Not that your thread would be offensive, but that we often unintentionally offend those that we suggest are seeing things. We often try to explain that everyone has pareidolia from time to time, that it is a normal part of life, and usually reference common things like “bunnies in clouds” or “the man in the moon” to drive home the point, but even that doesn’t go over well with a lot of people. Very few people understand what we are trying to tell them. Many leave in a huff, or at worst the conversation degrades to the point that the topic must be locked.
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Bradford is the closest
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Didn't think of those, will try looking for photos from those types of fossils. Haven't had luck yet finding photos them.
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Here's part 2 of my hunt on the 7th of april. I met up at 2pm with my friend Thomas and his 8yo son Bas at the clay quarry. After seeing last week's finds both were very convinced they we're going to dig up some nice megalodons 😏 I pointed them some good gravel spots close under the surface, put up my sifter and we started digging and sifting away. The first decent sized hastalis tooth goes to the kid and soon he finds his own first pieces of shark teeth. While Bas and I are sifting and digging Thomas tries making some drone shots of the location and us working our butts off. He's a movie producer and editor professionally and just an our after arriving home he sent me an awesome 2 minute video with dito soundtrack 😀 Here's a part that doesn't give away too much of the locality.. VID_20240417151841.mp4 At 5pm Thomas and Bas were pleased with the results of their hunt and they took off, no bags stuffed with Megs, but some pretty nice hastalis teeth. I kept going for a few hours and found myself some really pristine Carcharomodus escheri teeth, a huge and a really tiny Isurus retroflexus, an unexpected Carcharoides catticus and some decent sized hastalis teeth. No in situ photos tho, too busy sifting.. In the end i was encountered by someone i had seen dwelling around before. He seemed to be an artist making photos of landscape art he was making. He turned out to be really nice and very curious about what i was doing, so i eventually ended up modeling for the second time that day and gave him some shark teeth as well. We chatted about the history of these clay pits and the whole region that depended on them ever since the Romans started exploiting them till 50 years ago. When it turned dark it was time to head home and clean up the finds.. Favorite finds.. And the whole lot..
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Ontario is a big place, with lots of different geology/stratigraphy. Closest town?
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TY for your thoughts. Very sorry to hear of your father. Not a great condition to have. I very much agree, pareidolia is a product of the human mind, and I will add, it happens to all of us. In fact, we can vary where we fall on the continuum, within the same day. As i mentioned in my post, after an intense day of shark tooth hunting I see teeth everywhere. I don't think it is so much who is susceptible versus who is not to the experience of pareidolia as much as it is a question of who is susceptible to falling for the effects of pareidolia. Which are different things. Not sure there is much we can do to avoid the former, but there is much we can do to avoid the latter. That is why I feel it is important to discuss and perhaps even keep here in this section. More about this in just a bit. Because I am new I did not know this was an inflammatory topic. But I guess it is! However, in my brief search it seems to me the times it became inflammatory was when someone was presenting something that was called pareidolia, which in this context essentially means "you're seeing things" - which understandably might offend certain folks. However, this topic isn't directed to anyone's find, so not sure how one can get offended. Seems to be an innocuous topic - as long as it isn't directed at any certain person or their find. Course, again, I am new, so I could be totally wrong. Obviously I am fine with any decision mods may make, or if the consensus is for it to move. Just a thought though - in researching the topic the majority of threads that came up with "pareidolia" in the search bar yielded threads under this section. Also, although the main focus of this section seems to be directed towards ID'ing a certain type of fossil the topic of ID'ing "is this a fossil in the first place" seems to come up often enough. For diagnostic purposes you generally want to start with broad categories and whittle it down from there. The broadest category for this section may very well be "is it a fossil in the first place" - in which case I would think this post would be appropriate to keep here.
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I can almost bet its a horse tooth, but we need to see the grinding surface
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I found this behind my house I live in Ontario I usually walk on the public trails behind my house
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Where was this found? County, state or region, county or department? Location is the foundation of any ID attempts.
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Talityphis floridanus (Dall, 1889). Similar to T. harrisi, but more elongated and greater degree of curvature of the tubular varices towards the spire. In my experience T. floridanus occurs in the Lower Pleistocene while T. harrisi in the Upper Pliocene. If found in the same location as your other specimens, then Lower Pleistocene Caloosahatchee Formation. Mike
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It looks like a tooth but for anyone to ID what animal this went to they'll want photos of the chewing surface indicated by this black arrow I added to your photo;
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don't worry i am going to post a clear picture soon sorry about
