Quiescence Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Found this recently when grubbing around my San Diego Formation (Pliocene) riverbed that is full of marine fossils. Most bones I have found are from baleen whales, or 'other' marine mammals. This bone fossil seems somewhat different than other whale (or other cetacean?) bones I have found. It is smaller.. which doesn't mean much, but the ratio of inner to outer cortex maybe also seems different. I do not know exactly what distinguishing qualities are that would allow one to differentiate from something like a bird, or dolphin. I previously found a manatee rib, but was only sure of this because a curator at the Nat helped ID that. Two images are of the embedded bone, the next two are of a presumably baleen whale bone that was also found that day. Link to post Share on other sites
Rockwood Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 The contrast between cancellous and cortical bone does tend to be more pronounced in terrestrial animals. I think there is a good chance this bone is an example. Birds, on the other hand, do not have cancellous bone. So, they can be eliminated. Link to post Share on other sites
Quiescence Posted August 19 Author Share Posted August 19 13 hours ago, Rockwood said: The contrast between cancellous and cortical bone does tend to be more pronounced in terrestrial animals. I think there is a good chance this bone is an example. Birds, on the other hand, do not have cancellous bone. So, they can be eliminated. Thanks Rockwood. Based on the assemblage of terrestrial mammals listed in Wagner et al. attached below, I speculate that it could be a horse (Plessipus simplicidens), or cat/lynx (Felis rexroadensis) fossil. But I am well aware of the reach I am making here!!! Fun to entertain ideas though. Just based on the size of the fossil, I can rule out most of the rodents/lagomorphs they describe here. And that is if it is a non-marine species. I am not sure if Pinnipeds have comparable bone structure. The locations described in this publication are very close to where I found this, so I feel comfortable entertaining some of these ideas. They also describe horse footprints in mudstone - which correlates to an extent with the occurrence of this fossil embedded in mudstone (is this mudstone? eek). But I know this probably also a big reach! Wagner_2001.pdf Link to post Share on other sites
Rockwood Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Sory. Your reach exceeds my grasp. Link to post Share on other sites
Quiescence Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 That's fair. The train departed from speculation station some time ago Link to post Share on other sites
Boesse Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 The most common mammals from the San Diego Fm are marine mammals, and cetaceans in particular - the land mammal fauna from Wagner et al. 2001 is just one small unusual locality in the San Diego Fm. I'd wager these are whale bones, and the histology supports this. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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