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Chinese Cave Mammals

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My collection of mid-late Pleistocene fossils from the Panda—Stegodon mammalian fauna in southern China, particularly from Guizhou and Guangxi. These consist mainly of isolated teeth, as many bones are eroded in limestone caves. Teeth are better preserved due to their enamel.

 

Interestingly, many of these teeth' textures resemble those of living animals. But I assure you, they are indeed fossils—if they were modern panda teeth, god knows how many years I'd be sitting in the slammer.

 

Representative members of this fauna include:

  1. Even-toed ungulates (Artiodactyls) let's get the boring species out of the way
    1. Pigs, cows, sheep, deer
  2. Odd-toed ungulates (Perissodactyls)
    1. Only a minimal amount of horses
    2. Rhinos
    3. Tapirs, which included Tapirus augustus, the biggest tapir ever to live
  3. Primates which I don't know anything about
    1. Gigantopithecus from the early Pleistocene, the biggest primate ever to live
    2. Orangutans, gibbons, macaques, etc.
  4. Elephants such as Stegodons and Asian elephants. Probably Mastodons too but very rare
  5. Carnivorans (saving the best for last)
    1. Bears
      1. Pandas! All three species of pandas were here
      2. Sun bear and Asian black bear
    2. Hyaenas
    3. Canids
      1. Dholes, foxes, etc.
    4. Felids (ranked in size from large to small)
      1. TIGERS (the apex predator of this fauna)
      2. Leopards
      3. Clouded leopards
      4. Asian golden cats
      5. Small cats from the Felis genus
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Nice findings.

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Neat stuff. Not something you see every day!

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    • Its possible denis, its easier here in fairness as they are not that many species found on the malahide formation
    • Very nice, how do you determine the species of trilobites from Pygidium alone?
       
      They all look alike for me 
       
    • LOL.  Mine still won't.  I do so love computers.  I've been using them since we programmed with punch-cards.  And at every stage - there are little quirks here and there.  :-)   Thanks!
    • Hi philip, I didn’t do anything special, just uploaded it from my phone, i clicked on the arrow above just now and it played straight away
    • Hi- That's a great video- and today its presence is confusing me.  When I first ran into it, a day or two ago- it displayed just fine on the page, had the typical little click-arrow, and all worked seamlessly right in place.   Had a splash screen with a thumbnail and the statement that it was a QuickTime movie.  Today- nice paperclip icon, no thumbnail, and it automatically made me download all 51 megabytes before I could see anything. 
       
      My point- I tried for several days a couple weeks ago to upload an iPhone video of about the same size; on my blog space here- and it totally refused to work, ever; I had to give up.   
       
      Did you perform any magical tricks to get it to work in the first place?  Mine never did; and today I am again rather desperately wanting to be able to make and show short videos here- my "whole animal" fossils are just insanely difficult to comprehend from flat photographs; which I proved to myself once again yesterday - showing all sides just gets more confusing.  Trying to show transitions from side A to side B - proves endlessly disappointing.  
       
      Did you upload yours directly from the Cloud?  I did not- I avoid the Cloud and uploaded (failed) from my MacBook - I got an icon saying it was there, but then when trying to play only got the message "cannot find what you're looking for."  Any hints on making movies work here would be greatly appreciated!  
    • Nice finds! And nice display frame as well!
       
       
      -Cal
    • Cool frame!!!
      I have a display case with teeth of reptiles and fish from the Mesozoic and Paleogene. Maybe I'll post a photo on the forum someday when I have time to write a description for everyone. My laptop is broken, which makes it more difficult to complete my work. And I would also like to include the tooth of the megalosaur that I would like to buy.
       
    • It is indeed very abundant. The Panda-Stegodon fauna ranges from Southern China to Southeast Asia but I believe the most fossiliferous locations are still in the Guangxi and Guizhou provinces of Southern China.
       
      Reasons for these teeth being in the caves:
      1. Carried by underground waters
      2. Animal seeking shelter in here but ended up getting trapped
      3. Most importantly, it's difficult for these to fossilize outside, where they can be destroyed by other animals/microorganisms/weathering. Inside the caves the temperature would be quite stable and if there are less bats, there are relatively less amount of bacteria. 
      Most southern Chinese caves are limestone caves, meaning that the bones get eroded but the teeth crowns are heavily calcitized and look quite awesome when placed above a flashlight.
       
      And yes, GIgantopithecus is extremely rare. You could even consider the Guangxi and Guizhou provinces as places where it's most abundant. Even still, it rarely turns up.
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