Caverat Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 I have a collection of bone and teeth collected in Southeast Missouri caves, usually from gravels in the cave streams. Lots of horse and bison, some camel and very rarely, saber tooth. I have images of two that are uncertain and request some more knowledgeable persons help me with identification. The images have a light blue grid that is one inch. Thanks for any guidance in advance! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrow Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 I believe both are Peccary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caverat Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 48 minutes ago, darrow said: I believe both are Peccary If so, the canine tooth is quite large for Peccary, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 I agree with peccary. Platygonus sp. http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caverat Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Harry Pristis said: I agree with peccary. Platygonus sp. I certainly see the similarity in the upper canine. Do you have any idea which kind of tooth the other tooth might be from a Peccary? Molar? Upper or lower? Edited May 25, 2021 by Caverat Corrected a bad assumption.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Breakin' Rocks Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Caverat said: Peccary? Molar? Upper or lower? This may help .. definitely a molar. These images show (p2 - m3) Figure 2 - uploaded by Richard C. Hulbert Content may be subject to copyright. Tayassuid dentaries and lower teeth from the Pleistocene of Florida. A, right dentary with p2-m3 of Platygonus vetus, UF 66657, from Haile 21A, Alachua County, in occlusal view; B, right dentary with p2-m3 of Mylohyus fossilis, UF/FGS 5691, from Arredondo 2A, Alachua County, in occlusal view; C, right dentary with p4m3 of Pecari sp., UF 162751, from Peace River 5A, De Soto County, in occlusal view; D, right m3 of Pecari sp., UF 201286, from an unknown locality in the Suwannee River, in occlusal view; E, right m3 of Pecari sp., UF 225870, from Peace River 6, De Soto County, in occlusal view; F, UF 66657 in lateral view; G, UF/FGS 5691 in lateral view; H, UF 162751 in lateral view. Edited May 25, 2021 by Brett Breakin' Rocks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caverat Posted May 27, 2021 Author Share Posted May 27, 2021 On 5/24/2021 at 11:54 PM, Brett Breakin' Rocks said: This may help .. definitely a molar. These images show (p2 - m3) Figure 2 - uploaded by Richard C. Hulbert Content may be subject to copyright. Tayassuid dentaries and lower teeth from the Pleistocene of Florida. A, right dentary with p2-m3 of Platygonus vetus, UF 66657, from Haile 21A, Alachua County, in occlusal view; B, right dentary with p2-m3 of Mylohyus fossilis, UF/FGS 5691, from Arredondo 2A, Alachua County, in occlusal view; C, right dentary with p4m3 of Pecari sp., UF 162751, from Peace River 5A, De Soto County, in occlusal view; D, right m3 of Pecari sp., UF 201286, from an unknown locality in the Suwannee River, in occlusal view; E, right m3 of Pecari sp., UF 225870, from Peace River 6, De Soto County, in occlusal view; F, UF 66657 in lateral view; G, UF/FGS 5691 in lateral view; H, UF 162751 in lateral view. Thanks! These definitely do help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caverat Posted May 29, 2021 Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 Here is another tooth from the same location. I'm unsure of its identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 For comparison: http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caverat Posted May 29, 2021 Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 Thanks! I'll pursue that possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caverat Posted May 30, 2021 Author Share Posted May 30, 2021 Based on the sizes (my images have a light blue grid of one inch), The white tail deer teeth appear way too small. I feel the same regarding the peccary molar, however, I've had a suggestion that my peccary remains might be Playgonus cumberlandensis, which I'm told was a much larger species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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