PODIGGER Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Made it out to the Peace River yesterday for what turned out to be a beautiful day. Quite a number of the usual finds and then a few I am wondering about. One small thin tooth, just 27 mm, that I believe is a mammal incisor and second one, 19mm, that appears to me to be the same thing but worn or broken down smaller. After a lot of on line searching I came up with the possibility that they are Tapir or possibly a broken camelid/llama incisor? Or is it not even land mammal? The third tooth has me stumped on what to even look for. It appears to be a whole tooth with two roots but measures only 9mm x 19mm. Any help would be appreciated. Tooth #1 Tapir? - Second tooth that I believe is a shorter, more worn version of the first - The third tooth is double rooted and quite small at 9mm X 19mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bone Daddy Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 That first one is really weird. My first thought would be tooth also, but then again, I've never seen a tooth like that, so it might turn out to be something stranger. I'm going next week and I can't wait. I haven't touched the Peace since last May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 The bulbous end of the first one tells me this is probably the root of a mammal molar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PODIGGER Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 Thanks Bone Daddy and jpc. I've been searching all day for a comparative mammal tooth with no luck for any of them. Maybe @Shellseekeror @Harry Pristis will have an idea. I'm heading back to the river tomorrow for another hunt! Jim W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PODIGGER Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 @Bone Daddy just to follow up on the river. I have been visiting periodically since November and I am finally seeing the water depth getting to a very nice level for digging. While I hate to see graffiti marring our beautiful natural setting of the Peace I am including a couple of pictures below that demonstrate how much the river water level has dropped. GOOD LUCK on your first visit of the season next week!! (maybe I should have waited?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrehistoricWonders Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Possibly juvenile mammoth tooth root on the last one? Weird break, so not to sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PODIGGER Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 Thanks for the response Familyroadtrip. I also thought it had the look of mammoth, but I couldn't imagine that a mammoth tooth could be so small. After extensive online research I have not found any mammoth tooth that would fit. Still an open question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorne Ledger Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 The second one could be a baby mammoth, it looks close to this one but yours has complete roots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrehistoricWonders Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 4 hours ago, PODIGGER said: Thanks for the response Familyroadtrip. I also thought it had the look of mammoth, but I couldn't imagine that a mammoth tooth could be so small. After extensive online research I have not found any mammoth tooth that would fit. Still an open question. This is an unerupted juvenile Mammoth tooth. The texture and shape(if it was a partial) seem consistent to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PODIGGER Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 Thanks for the pic's Familyroadtrip and Lorne Ledger I think you solved the mystery. Heading back to the same spot today. Maybe I'll find one of mom or dad's! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Most of the small teeth I find in the Peace River with that little knobby root end have been dolphin. I can not tell much from your 2nd tooth. The 3rd fossil: This is either the very bottom tips of the roots of an adult mammoth tooth (99%) or a single plate split off a juvenile/baby mammoth tooth (1%), I do not see any sign on the sides of your fossil that it split off from a larger tooth. I did well yesterday. Hope you have a beautiful and productive day... Jack 1 The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PODIGGER Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 Thanks Jack. I will put 1 & 2 in the dolphin folder as both have that knobby end you referenced. The 3rd will go as a juvenile/baby mammoth as there is no sign of it having split off from another plate. I had a good today. Found a larger mammoth plate and what I believe is another juvenile mammoth tooth. It's larger than the one in this thread and more robust. I really have to research it further as it is about 1.5" tall and has a bulbous base. Found a complete tiger shark tooth at 1.25" that has a nice gray/white color, another llama tooth, a vert and a bunch of things I need to go through and better ID. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Sounds like you were out Thursday, so was I. Considerably upstream of you, I think. I have been moving around a lot lately. Thursday was a very pretty day on the river... As I am driving in to temps in the high 40s and mid 50s, I always wonder, but it has been getting to mid 70s with the sun shining... As I get older, I notice that I move to the sun, out of the shade, even in those situations when I was making good fossil finds and move to a less productive spot. Sometimes, I stumble across spots where the tigers and hemis are about the same size. 1 The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PODIGGER Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 Nice finds! It was actually Friday I was out and the weather was much as you described for Thursday. One of my finds is a bit unusual for me - and I found the same type bone last spring. Both seem to have a "peace sign" imbeded in them (not turtle). Looks to me like they could be Artioactyl, camelid/bison proximal phalanx or piece of a calcanea. I'll be posting them shortly asking for some help with the ID. Hope you can take a look. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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