garyc Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 I’m sure I posted this when I found it, but I think I only got “bison” as an id. I’m reposting because of the recent post and subsequent conversation about bison vs cow tooth size. The length of the m3 is about 52mm. Would that measurement be in the range of bison antiquus? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 Because of ALL the discussion , just tonight I captured some images from UF MNH, m3 from Bison Latifrons... looks to be 53 mm, but I WISH they just they just posted the exact length for every tooth... I am probably a millemeter or 2 off... Please check and correct if necessary..... 3 The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyc Posted September 4, 2023 Author Share Posted September 4, 2023 13 hours ago, Shellseeker said: Because of ALL the discussion , just tonight I captured some images from UF MNH, m3 from Bison Latifrons... looks to be 53 mm, but I WISH they just they just posted the exact length for every tooth... I am probably a millemeter or 2 off... Please check and correct if necessary..... Thanks Jack, I suppose Latifrons and Antiquus have some overlap in the ranges, so that’s definitely a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 The teeth are not diagnostic for distinguishing between Bison species. Only horn cores and other skull elements (span of the masseteric process) are useful. This according to Jesse Robertson in the PLEISTOCENE FOSSILS OF FLORIDA, edited by Dave Webb. http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Here is an Bison upper molar identified B. Antiquus by The Western Science Center, which is associated with Diamond Valley Lake in California. Seems the only reason for Identifying a Bison tooth to species is when there is a complete absence of one species Horns/Skull at the fossil site. 1 The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Jesse Robertson (op. cit.) points out that there are three species of bison in Florida, but these species "appear to be successional, not overlapping in time." That may be the general assumption for the brief history (100K years) of bison in North America. Context could be crucial, but we are not given any of the geology/paleontology of West Dam to support "...this is most likely Bison antiquus." Maybe it is, maybe it's not. "Bison sp." seems to me more appropriate for isolated teeth. 3 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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