MelanieD Posted June 8 Posted June 8 Found this on Torrance Beach in SoCal today. I’ve found both land and sea mammal specimens here, including an agatized western horse tooth, and this looks similar, so I’m thinking it’s bone, but perhaps wood? Tar pits nearby from La Brea, so it could be filled with that? Looks like there’s a thin layer around the outside, too, so, periosteum?. No spongy bone like I’d expect, but perhaps it’s been replaced? it’s roughly 2” x 1” x 1.5”.
Fin Lover Posted June 8 Posted June 8 2 hours ago, MelanieD said: so I’m thinking it’s bone, but perhaps wood? Sorry, I'm not seeing evidence of either. 1 Fin Lover
Mahnmut Posted June 8 Posted June 8 I agree its a quartz vein. Periosteum is a thin skin surrounding the living bone and what hurts so much when you hit your shinbones. Nothing you would find in a fossil. Best regards, J 1 Try to learn something about everything and everything about something Thomas Henry Huxley
diggumdave Posted June 8 Posted June 8 hi! though it’s not complete and has some microcrystalline quartz growing on it, I see a tooth. Ii’m definitely not an expert, but photos 2 and 4 look similar to these horse teeth, from the right angle. The business end (#4)is the giveaway. it has a slightly different pattern from mine, but I’m in Texas so, maybe a different type of horse separated by a few million years? I agree with Mahnmut on periosteum. looks like some beautifully colored enamel though. I’d love to see #2 in bright sunlight. …but i’ve been wrong before.
Fin Lover Posted June 9 Posted June 9 (edited) Unfortunately, the original item is not a horse tooth and doesn't have enamel. Edited June 9 by Fin Lover Clarification 1 Fin Lover
diggumdave Posted June 11 Posted June 11 I do have an overactive imagination…please allow me to re-phrase- due to my limited knowledge on horse teeth and several other things that i’m learning now on this site, and the fact that I can’t hold it in my hand for closer observation, i cannot rule this out as a tooth. I’ll trust the opinions of the experts here 😁 …but i’ve been wrong before.
Coco Posted June 11 Posted June 11 (edited) Hi, Just because it looks like something doesn’t mean it’s really that thing. Paleontology is not based on passing resemblance, but on the association of several facts : age of the land where it was found, size, shape, symmetry, material etc... Certainly your piece of rock looks "from afar" like a tooth, but where is the photo of the occlusal face that would recognize a horse tooth ? On the last photo you added, we can see this occlusal side and we can conclude without any doubt that it is a horse tooth. By the way, when you post photos that are not ours, it is good to add a link to the origin of these photos or add the name of the author. I have already seen these photos, don’t they come from a member of this forum ? Coco Edited June 11 by Coco ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Paréidolie : [url=https://www.thefossilforum.com/topic/144611-pareidolia-explanations-and-examples/#comment-1520032]here[/url] Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg...
diggumdave Posted June 12 Posted June 12 Hello Coco, Thank you for your input. are you referring to these teeth? You have a very keen eye if you recognized the lower tooth from my collection but i assure you that you have not already seen those photos because i took them for this post 😁 …but i’ve been wrong before.
Coco Posted June 12 Posted June 12 Hi, I meant those pictures. If they are yours, my apologies, I thought I had already seen them (or this is the way to note the dimensions I retained...). In any case, in these photos it is indeed the horse. For some reason, I couldn’t quote the post. Coco ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Paréidolie : [url=https://www.thefossilforum.com/topic/144611-pareidolia-explanations-and-examples/#comment-1520032]here[/url] Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg...
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