JessicaCharleston Posted July 6, 2024 Posted July 6, 2024 Hello! I am a novice in Charleston, South Carolina primarily interested in shark teeth. While I have a few fossil books, I am not a very visual learner so I struggle with some of my identifications. I wanted to create a key for myself with my actual finds, so I can compare future finds to my physical specimens instead of printed pictures. I was hoping to get confirmation or correction on my bigger/better teeth and other beach finds that I have. I've also included a picture of teeth I'm not too certain on, as well as a number of finds that I'm nearly certain are rocks but I can't convince myself to toss them. Please help me put these rocks out of their misery! I've included an anterior and posterior picture. Thank you so much for your help and expertise! Hopefully creating this key for myself will help me be more self reliant in the future! Close Ups: Oops, top right is a ray mouth plate I think. 3
fifbrindacier Posted July 6, 2024 Posted July 6, 2024 Hi, the number nine is a piece of bone. 1 "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren
Fin Lover Posted July 6, 2024 Posted July 6, 2024 44 minutes ago, JessicaCharleston said: Close Ups: Could all be megs, but without the area where the cusps would have been, some of them can't be determined. Fin Lover
Fin Lover Posted July 6, 2024 Posted July 6, 2024 (edited) 54 minutes ago, JessicaCharleston said: Can we see a better picture of the labial side of A? I think it may be a retroflexus, be I need to see where the root and crown come together. Bottom right is not a Hemipristis. Turtle shell doesn't look right to me. 54 minutes ago, JessicaCharleston said: Yes on verts...some shark and some odontocete Agree on hypural, ray mouth plate and sand tigers. I'm not comfortable saying that's a great white...could be Otodus, but the area where a bourlette would be is missing. Sorry, I know you'll have to expand to see my responses, but I was having issues replying otherwise. Edited July 6, 2024 by Fin Lover Fin Lover
Fin Lover Posted July 6, 2024 Posted July 6, 2024 In the "probably rocks" section, you may have a couple bone frags (I agree that #9 looks like bone), but I don't see anything else recognisable. Fin Lover
JessicaCharleston Posted July 6, 2024 Author Posted July 6, 2024 38 minutes ago, fifbrindacier said: Hi, the number nine is a piece of bone. Awesome, thanks!
JessicaCharleston Posted July 6, 2024 Author Posted July 6, 2024 29 minutes ago, Fin Lover said: Could all be megs, but without the area where the cusps would have been, some of them can't be determined. Noted, thank you!
JessicaCharleston Posted July 6, 2024 Author Posted July 6, 2024 20 minutes ago, Fin Lover said: Bottom right is not a Hemipristis. Turtle shell doesn't look right to me. Agree on hypural, ray mouth plate and sand tigers. I'm not comfortable saying that's a great white...could be Otodus, but the area where a bourlette would be is missing. Sorry, I know you'll have to expand to see my responses, but I was having issues replying otherwise. Bottom right for the upper teeth or lower teeth? I think I was hopeful with the peace sign marking on the turtle shell haha, I shall continue my search! Yeah the one I put for great white is pretty worn. I'll post a posterior pic. Thank you so much for your help!
JessicaCharleston Posted July 6, 2024 Author Posted July 6, 2024 18 minutes ago, Fin Lover said: In the "probably rocks" section, you may have a couple bone frags (I agree that #9 looks like bone), but I don't see anything else recognisable. Okay, thanks!!
JessicaCharleston Posted July 6, 2024 Author Posted July 6, 2024 25 minutes ago, Fin Lover said: Bottom right is not a Hemipristis. Turtle shell doesn't look right to me. Agree on hypural, ray mouth plate and sand tigers. I'm not comfortable saying that's a great white...could be Otodus, but the area where a bourlette would be is missing. Sorry, I know you'll have to expand to see my responses, but I was having issues replying otherwise. Here's A:
Fin Lover Posted July 6, 2024 Posted July 6, 2024 4 minutes ago, JessicaCharleston said: Bottom right for the upper teeth or lower teeth? Sorry, the lowers 1 Fin Lover
Fin Lover Posted July 6, 2024 Posted July 6, 2024 "A" looks like a worn Isurus retroflexus to me 1 Fin Lover
JessicaCharleston Posted July 6, 2024 Author Posted July 6, 2024 6 minutes ago, Fin Lover said: "A" looks like a worn Isurus retroflexus to me Oohh, I'll add it to my key! Thank you!
Fin Lover Posted July 6, 2024 Posted July 6, 2024 58 minutes ago, JessicaCharleston said: Oohh, I'll add it to my key! Thank you! I like finding them. Here is my most recent one, so you can see one without wear: Fin Lover
Al Dente Posted July 6, 2024 Posted July 6, 2024 This one that I circled is a Physogaleus contortus. The teeth labeled G. latidens are a mix of aduncus and P. contortus. 1
fifbrindacier Posted July 6, 2024 Posted July 6, 2024 (edited) The turtle shell looks weird to me too. It might be a septaria. I'd like to see more photos of it if you please. Edited July 6, 2024 by fifbrindacier "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren
JessicaCharleston Posted July 6, 2024 Author Posted July 6, 2024 50 minutes ago, Fin Lover said: I like finding them. Here is my most recent one, so you can see one without wear: Oh, wow! Gorgeous! 1
JessicaCharleston Posted July 6, 2024 Author Posted July 6, 2024 On 7/6/2024 at 5:27 PM, fifbrindacier said: The turtle shell looks weird to me too. It might be a septaria. I'd like to see more photos of it if you please. Fair enough! Here ya go, thank you!
old bones Posted July 6, 2024 Posted July 6, 2024 I agree with @fifbrindacier, that it is not turtle shell. The ray tooth looks like it might be Plinthicus stenodon. 16 looks like a broken tooth to me, just whose, I can't tell. I would keep 17. The back doesn't look like anything much, but the front is interesting... So many times phosphate pebbles look like something. Nothing wrong with putting something aside for future thought. When I began collecting I almost discarded obscure looking bits before, and later on found that they were actually something neat like a mammal petrosal!
JessicaCharleston Posted July 6, 2024 Author Posted July 6, 2024 2 hours ago, Al Dente said: This one that I circled is a Physogaleus contortus. The teeth labeled G. latidens are a mix of aduncus and P. contortus. Ohh, okay, thanks! I shall work on fixing that!
JessicaCharleston Posted July 6, 2024 Author Posted July 6, 2024 24 minutes ago, old bones said: I agree with @fifbrindacier, that it is not turtle shell. The ray tooth looks like it might be Plinthicus stenodon. 16 looks like a broken tooth to me, just whose, I can't tell. I would keep 17. The back doesn't look like anything much, but the front is interesting... So many times phosphate pebbles look like something. Nothing wrong with putting something aside for future thought. When I began collecting I almost discarded obscure looking bits before, and later on found that they were actually something neat like a mammal petrosal! Thank you for your input! One of my favorite parts is just picking up all the odd looking things at the beach and then coming home to investigate...99% of the time it's a rock, but sometimes it turns out to be something interesting! (or like the non-turtle shell, something I can convince myself is interesting haha!)
Fin Lover Posted July 7, 2024 Posted July 7, 2024 At worst, we learn by picking up those odd looking things. At best, we realize it's something really special. Keep looking! 1 Fin Lover
hemipristis Posted July 7, 2024 Posted July 7, 2024 F, G, H are requiem shark teeth, genus Carcharhinus. A bit too worn too speciate 1 'Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.' George Santayana
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