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I think the origin is a bit vague to get a good identification...

 

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The second fish seems to be a Myctophidae. So I would guess somewhere from Italy (maybe Fiume Marecchia: Lampanyctus, Ceratoscopelus, Vinciguerria???).

Not sure about the first fish. I don‘t think it is from France. Could be also Italy, Fiume Marecchia: maybe Sardina or Pomolobus?

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6 hours ago, oilshale said:

The second fish seems to be a Myctophidae. So I would guess somewhere from Italy (maybe Fiume Marecchia: Lampanyctus, Ceratoscopelus, Vinciguerria???).

Not sure about the first fish. I don‘t think it is from France. Could be also Italy, Fiume Marecchia: maybe Sardina or Pomolobus?

The biggest fish origin Calabria (Italy), the second France but I don’t know where exactly 

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interesting fishes, not easy to say where they are from.

Remain me a bit to Auxides (snd one), first one, unsure

@Salvos: the matrix of both fishes, is it soft or hard? Is it sure that one should come from Italy and one from France or could it be e.g. Poland or middle germany?

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I am very sure about Myctophidae for the second fish. They are easy to identify. I do not know of any sites in France where Myctophidae occur. Since you obviously don't know the exact location, you have traded or bought the fish. In such a case, unfortunately, you cannot rely on vague location information (such as „France“). They are often wrong.

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The matrix is hard, the 2 fish were sold to me as French, the larger Italian one from Calabria, for the second I'm sure, for the exact location I think Cessaniti

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2 hours ago, oilshale said:

I am very sure about Myctophidae for the second fish. They are easy to identify. I do not know of any sites in France where Myctophidae occur. Since you obviously don't know the exact location, you have traded or bought the fish. In such a case, unfortunately, you cannot rely on vague location information (such as „France“). They are often wrong.

Probabily. The largest one, however, is sure to come from southern Italy 

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3 hours ago, rocket said:

interesting fishes, not easy to say where they are from.

Remain me a bit to Auxides (snd one), first one, unsure

@Salvos: the matrix of both fishes, is it soft or hard? Is it sure that one should come from Italy and one from France or could it be e.g. Poland or middle germany?

The large fish can it be a dapalis macrulus? But it should be found in France not southern Italy 

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1 minute ago, Salvos said:

The large fish can it be a dapalis macrulus?

Thanks for repond. No, Dapalis is not possible. Fish is different and the matrix, too

Hard matrix, this excludes a few of the classic sites I was thinking about with the fish

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