November unknowns

[Shellseeker]

I have managed to get out hunting 3 times this month and as a result of higher water, results have been 1 third of what seem available in lower water levels. I have found a number of fossils where I am unsure of the identification:

#1 A small Raptor claw.  @Auspexused to ID these easily.  Wonder if there is another raptor claw expert.

 

#2 An odd shaped Glyptodont ??? Osteoderm.  Is it Glyptodon and if so where positioned on the body?

#3 A common looking bone.  Possibly Alligator or Turtle. Hopefully someone else has seen this..

 

#4 An Osteoderm.. I have no other guess than Giant Tortoise, but that underside seems drastically different that the normal.  Have others seen this texture on Tortoise

 

#5 Small Shark tooth ... Symphyseal ??

 

#6 This beat up horse tooth at 22 mm APL seems to small to be Equus.  Maybe Equus simplicidens.  @fossillarry

 

 

#7  I do not recognize this fossil.  Possibly @Al Denteor @MarcoSr

 

 

 

#7 A small broken tooth.  Based on Location, possible a horse "wolf tooth"  or just a dolphin tooth

 

Ending early due to problem.

[Shellseeker]

3 hours ago, Shellseeker said:

Ending early due to problem.

 

Somehow,  I could no longer add photos.. just hung like this... Feels like I am hitting a limit.. @Fossildude19

 

 

 

 

 

[Fossildude19]

Try putting the images into different posts/replies, Jack.

This is the first time I am hearing of this issue.

 

Could just be a bandwith issue on the server currently, or it could be the pending update (that is waiting to be applied) may fix this issue. 

[Ivaldir]

For nr. 7 I would maybe look into stingray barbs

 

https://www.thefossilforum.com/gallery/image/7290-stingray-tail-spines/

[Shellseeker]

1 hour ago, Ivaldir said:

For nr. 7 I would maybe look into stingray barbs

 

https://www.thefossilforum.com/gallery/image/7290-stingray-tail-spines/

I tend to agree but your photo only shows the top side of the Sting Ray barb,,,

 

I am wondering which species of Sting Ray has this wider groove on the underside of the barb.

 

@Fossildude19Tim, attaching photos seems to be working again for me.

[Shellseeker]

Continuing with #8.  Not positive this is fossil, but I am pretty sure this is Cervid and at this size can someone confirm as Deer.  

 

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#9 I know what this is, but I find them so infrequently,  wanted to share.

 

 #10, Another unknown to me. a bowl like shape with a small dot of enamel ?? on top of right image.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Al Dente]

15 hours ago, Shellseeker said:

#7  I do not recognize this fossil.  Possibly @Al Denteor @MarcoSr

It might be a fish dorsal fin spine.

[MarcoSr]

This looks more like a shark or bony fish dorsal fin spine:

 

 

 

 

16 hours ago, Shellseeker said:

 

#7  I do not recognize this fossil.  Possibly @Al Denteor @MarcoSr

 

 

Really need better pictures, especially of the back end and other side.   Could be a dorsal fin spine, like Eric said above.  Could be a bony fish rostrum.

 

Marco Sr.

[Shellseeker]

3 hours ago, MarcoSr said:

Really need better pictures, especially of the back end and other side.   Could be a dorsal fin spine, like Eric said above.  Could be a bony fish rostrum.  Marco Sr.

Thank you.

Any other photo views ?  Any similar photo examples appreciated.    Jack

@Al Dente

 

[Shellseeker]

I have started trying to Identify all ten...

#8 Finally found some good comparison photos on the internet to confirm as Deer (Odocoileus virginianus) rib.

#4 and #10.  Found this great thread and think I would like  @Plantguy@Carl@Sachato comment especially on #4.

On #5 the Shark symphyseal, 

I found this one in June in the Peace River... Almost exactly the same.. The most common sharks in both locations are Dusky, Bull, Cuvier, Contortus... , all Carcharhinus sp. 

 

[Moth.11]

Cool specimen 

[jpc]

#3 is indeed a reptile leg bone.  Not sure which one, but not a femur.  Hope that helps. 

 

 

[MarcoSr]

When I see end views like this, I think shark or bony fish dorsal fin spine.

 

 

 

As an example of a shark dorsal fin spine from ResearchGate "Diagram of a dorsal-fin spine from Heterodontus portusjacksoni (modified from Maisey 1979). Longitudinal section (a) and cross section (b) at the level of the arrow. PC, pulp cavity; TDL, trunk dentine layer; TP, trunk primordium; TL, transitional layer; MC, mantle canals. Uncertain cartilage rod and pulp cavity height is relative to the TDLs. "

 

 

 

 

Marco Sr.

[Shellseeker]

56 minutes ago, MarcoSr said:

As an example of a shark dorsal fin spine from ResearchGate "Diagram of a dorsal-fin spine from Heterodontus portusjacksoni (modified from Maisey 1979). Longitudinal section (a) and cross section (b) at the level of the arrow. PC, pulp cavity; TDL, trunk dentine layer; TP, trunk primordium; TL, transitional layer; MC, mantle canals. Uncertain cartilage rod and pulp cavity height is relative to the TDLs. "

Thank you,  Additional Candidates: Interesting that these would fossilize. 

 

Figure 3 Representative venomous fish structure morphology: (A) Venomous dorsal spines from the lantern shark. (B) Venomous dorsal spine from the jack. (C) The barbed dorsal spine of the stingray. (D) The venomous dorsal spine with enlarged venom glands in the stonefish,

[Plantguy]

Hi Jack, interesting finds! I just looked at #4. I dont have anything looking like that on the base of the tortoise osteoderm. I'm wondering if its just an abraded/worn off surface exposing the interior? 

 

Very informative post as always! 

Regards, Chris 

[C2fossils]

#3 Looks like some type of turtle femur.

Here is on of @PrehistoricFlorida's fossils