putt510 Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 Does anyone have any deformed bones from calvert cliffs. I have found a vert with a deformity but have no idea what may have caused it.
Troodon Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 I have not seen any pathology on bones from Calvert Cliffs but if you post the image of yours you may get feedback on what caused it.
Metopocetus Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 There are many different causes for deformities in cetacean (whale and dolphin) vertebrae. The most common is arthrhitis. If you can post a picture of the fossil that would be very helpful in identifying the deformity and possible cause.
siteseer Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) Here's a link to a paper on paleopathologies of whale bones from the west coast. You might find a match to the bone condition of your vert. http://www.nhm.org/site/sites/default/files/pdf/contrib_science/SS-41.pdf Does anyone have any deformed bones from calvert cliffs. I have found a vert with a deformity but have no idea what may have caused it. Edited December 29, 2014 by siteseer
putt510 Posted December 29, 2014 Author Posted December 29, 2014 Hey guys, I finally took some pics of the bones. The bone was found in calvert formation.
putt510 Posted December 29, 2014 Author Posted December 29, 2014 Here are the rest of the pics. You can see that the extra bone is attached to the vert.
Metopocetus Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Looks like arthrhitis. Here is a paper that describes the condition in more detail. http://www.repository.naturalis.nl/document/43550
non-remanié Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 very cool specimen! ---Wie Wasser schleift den Stein, wir steigen und fallen---
Triceratops Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 An interesting find with a story -Lyall
smokeriderdon Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Yep, looks a lot like my knee. Arthritis.
Al Dente Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 You might be looking at matrix attached to the bone. On your first photo in post #5 it looks like sand grains in the attached piece and the last photo in post #6 looks like a gastropod impression near the top. You can determine if it is matrix by looking at it under magnification. I would look for sand grains which would indicate matrix instead of bone.
Boesse Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 I actually have to agree with Al Dente on this. I strongly suspect that's a well-cemented sandstone nodule on the side that just happens to be the same color as the bone, and I'm unable to see any bony-looking texture or tissue aside from the normal part of the vertebra.
RichW9090 Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) It looks to me to possibly be an example of the deep-sea diving syndrome which has been described for various marine animals, where something akin to the bends causes defects in the vertebral discs and adjacent centra; some bone deposition and attempts at remodeling followed. You'd have to get the bone to a good paleopathologist familiar with the syndrome. I know that there were a couple of papers a few years back. Maybe Howell Thomas was one of those who documented it? Bobby, can you help out here? Edit: I see Bobby replied while I was composing. Never mind! Edited January 1, 2015 by RichW9090 The plural of "anecdote" is not "evidence".
putt510 Posted January 2, 2015 Author Posted January 2, 2015 It looks to me to possibly be an example of the deep-sea diving syndrome which has been described for various marine animals, where something akin to the bends causes defects in the vertebral discs and adjacent centra; some bone deposition and attempts at remodeling followed. You'd have to get the bone to a good paleopathologist familiar with the syndrome. I know that there were a couple of papers a few years back. Maybe Howell Thomas was one of those who documented it? Bobby, can you help out here? Edit: I see Bobby replied while I was composing. Never mind! Where is Bobby in here?
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