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I have two specimens here they were both found near each other. They were found near Alta, Utah which has produced pyromorphite and pyrite. There are lots of lead mines around the area. Hopefully this is better photography than my last post. I am working on getting some tile for a streak test. First 5 pics are one specimen, next 3 are the other.

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This is only my second attempt at identifying a mineral so you may need to dumb down your message for me to understand. :)

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Probably fluorite and calcite, that is what we found associated with the galena mines in Arizona.....the orange could be wulfinite

Jim

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Can fluorite and calcite have metallic lusters?

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I'm thinking more along the lines of mica. Is it soft and pliable?

 

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It is soft and scratches easily.

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If I'm doing the scratch test right it won't scratch a penny but it does scratch my fingernail. So between a 2 and 3 on MOHs scale.

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That would fit to mica. Now it's a matter of determining which one. Maybe Muscovite.

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Yes, mica too, I forgot about that........good catch Ludwigia

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Could it be clintonite? That's listed to be in the area

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Could very well be...

 

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When doing the scratch test does it matter if the penny is old or new?

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Muscovite would be my guess also

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Old pennies are made from copper new pennies are an alloy made to look like copper. I am sure that the new is not the same hardness as the old, but I have not tested it to see.

Tony

 

 

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New pennies are copper coated zinc

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Are new pennies harder than old or softer or does it really matter?

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The scale was created using copper pennies from pre-1983; whether the newer alloys have different properties, I know not, so I would use pre-1983 pennies.

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>May your wonders never cease!

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You could always do a test on them.

Tony

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Keep in mind some 1982 pennies are copper, others are the newer composition. Pre-82 is safest.

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