cloudraker19 Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 I found something....different. Just wanted to check and ask first: is it possible for eyelids, eyeballs to fossilize? Dinosaur skin I guess would be included?
Ludwigia Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 The facetted eyes of trilobites, insects, etc. can be preserved, but I've got the feeling that that's not what you're asking. Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/
fossilized6s Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 Soft tissue eyes will not with stand the fossilization process (mammals, reptiles, fish, etc.) But hard "structured" eyes can and do fossilize (crabs, shrimp, trilobites, insects, Tully monsters, etc.), but these creatures do not have eye lids. It sounds as though you may have a puesdofossil find. ~Charlie~ "There are those that look at things the way they are, and ask why.....i dream of things that never were, and ask why not?" ~RFK ->Get your Mosasaur print ->How to spot a fake Trilobite ->How to identify a CONCRETION from a DINOSAUR EGG
cloudraker19 Posted May 6, 2015 Author Posted May 6, 2015 Just double checking: So no dinosaur eye lid has ever been found? Sorry but I haven't found anything online indicating that one has been, so I just want to be sure here.
Uncle Siphuncle Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) A few years ago I found a partial oreodont skull with a hard, smooth, nearly spherical mass in its orbit. One person suggested glaucoma or some other sort of eyeball hardening disease, but being somewhat skeptical of mammalian eyeballs in the fossil record, I'll just say that it looks rather suggestive. Edited May 6, 2015 by Uncle Siphuncle Grüße, Daniel A. Wöhr aus Südtexas "To the motivated go the spoils."
Auspex Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 Can Eyeballs / Eyelids Fossilize?No, it just feels that way some days... 1 "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease!
cloudraker19 Posted May 7, 2015 Author Posted May 7, 2015 Thanks for the help guys. I'm taking what I found to get looked at/inspected. If it turns out to be true I'll post some pics, thanks again!!!!
Uncle Siphuncle Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Illuminati Oreodont Grüße, Daniel A. Wöhr aus Südtexas "To the motivated go the spoils."
fossilized6s Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Haha! That is sweet, Dan! Thanks for sharing. ~Charlie~ "There are those that look at things the way they are, and ask why.....i dream of things that never were, and ask why not?" ~RFK ->Get your Mosasaur print ->How to spot a fake Trilobite ->How to identify a CONCRETION from a DINOSAUR EGG
JohnJ Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 '...these are not the eyes you're looking for...." The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ
Triceratops Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Can Eyeballs / Eyelids Fossilize? No, it just feels that way some days... Ha ha! -Lyall
oilshale Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) Thanks for the help guys. I'm taking what I found to get looked at/inspected. If it turns out to be true I'll post some pics, thanks again!!!! Don't be afraid to show pictures - this is a "friendly" forum (thanks Auspex!) and we are all happy to help. And there are so many experts on board - it will be difficult to find a better expertise somewhere else. Thomas Edited May 7, 2015 by oilshale Be not ashamed of mistakes and thus make them crimes (Confucius, 551 BC - 479 BC).
digit Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Can Eyeballs / Eyelids Fossilize? No, it just feels that way some days... Oh, I so hear you as I give myself eye strain even while looking at my 27" monitor.... Thanks for the chuckle. -Ken
aplomado Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 http://www.ibtimes.com/fossilized-eye-300-million-year-old-fish-contains-rods-cones-suggesting-color-vision-1766648 This is perhaps not what you are looking for.... 1
fossilized6s Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 On 5/7/2015 at 10:59 AM, aplomado said: http://www.ibtimes.com/fossilized-eye-300-million-year-old-fish-contains-rods-cones-suggesting-color-vision-1766648 This is perhaps not what you are looking for.... Good point. I have even found fish with preserved eyes. Just a brainfart moment. Even that being said, fish still don't have eyelids though. And it occurs rarely. ~Charlie~ "There are those that look at things the way they are, and ask why.....i dream of things that never were, and ask why not?" ~RFK ->Get your Mosasaur print ->How to spot a fake Trilobite ->How to identify a CONCRETION from a DINOSAUR EGG
Taogan Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 I wouldn't say rarely for fish, I just had a look at my fish and about 20% of the flattened ones show a different preservation in the eye area that could be interpreted as fossil eyes, but somehow I don't think this is what the original question was about.
Fossildude19 Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Illuminati Oreodont Now THAT is freakishly cool, and odd, at the same time. Regards, Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me
cloudraker19 Posted May 12, 2015 Author Posted May 12, 2015 So this is it: It's currently being looked at/identified by someone, but I thought I'd let it out for you guys to see. Very excited to hear what it is! What do you guys think?
jpc Posted May 12, 2015 Posted May 12, 2015 Weird. Can you show us other angles. I have to admit, in correction of my initial no response... I also have seen a lot if fish with carbon stains where the eyes were.
Auspex Posted May 12, 2015 Posted May 12, 2015 It's a sedimentary structure of some kind, and may or may not incorporate an ichnofossil. Do you know what formation it came from? What other things were in the same stratum? "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease!
cloudraker19 Posted May 12, 2015 Author Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) Thanks guys! Edited May 12, 2015 by cloudraker19
Fossildude19 Posted May 12, 2015 Posted May 12, 2015 Definitely not a fossil. Neat looking geofact, though. Regards, Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me
Tate Museum Posted May 12, 2015 Posted May 12, 2015 agreed Definitely not a fossil. Neat looking geofact, though. Regards,
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