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I found these on the Ordovician outcrop in front of my house. They were in lower/Leipers or upper Inman formation.

Showing both sides and a micro shot.

They are silicified.

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Mineral sediment is my guess as well. I have some similar type pieces you can compare

Them with..

Nice finds.

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2 more microscopic views

there seems to be too much order to be mineral deposit

there is quite a bit of hallopora sp. pieces in the same level--not sure if it is somehow related or not

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looks like bryozoans

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I am still trying to id this bryozoan

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I have looked at hundreds of photos and consulted the local surveys from northern Alabama to Ohio and still can't find this.

post-20526-0-59105300-1469125433_thumb.jpg these are some fragments I have found

post-20526-0-21110000-1469125458_thumb.jpg better view with some attached to matrix and growing on older bryozoa

Middle Tennessee, Southern Highland Rim, Ordovician, top of Catheys formation/bottom of Leipers

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Are you sure these aren't mineral? :unsure:

I see what appear to be a few Beekite rings.

More images HERE.

Maybe beekite encrusted corals, sponges, or bryozoans?

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If they are fossils might they be the steinkerns of sponge galleries in some bivalve shell that later dissolved?

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If they are fossils might they be the steinkerns of sponge galleries in some bivalve shell that later dissolved?

Nothing quite like that in those Ordovician faunas that I know of. I think we are looking at a secondary mineralization of bryozoans. And it does look similar to beekite...but different.

My first inclination was they looked like speleothems. Are there voids in the rock? Weird stuff can grow within solution pockets in those limestones.

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Here are a few more microscopic views of 3 different pieces of unknown specimen.

growth seems to occur around the white spherical objects

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I've been working on this since my op

Looked at 100's of images--closest I've come is polyzoa in Great Britain

if it is geological I can't find any examples of that either :-(

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This is the largest and most complex part I;ve found so far. The matrix is encrusted bryozoa and shell pieces.

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This is the largest and most complex part I;ve found so far. The matrix is encrusted bryozoa and shell pieces.

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A couple of new photos taken 60x

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it appears to be an ancestrula with new zooid? growth rings

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permineralized bryozoans

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My first inclination was they looked like speleothems. Are there voids in the rock? Weird stuff can grow within solution pockets in those limestones.

Yes, often there are clues in the other, non-fossiliferous, rocks. It pays to spend some time looking at the behavior of the formation.

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A couple of new photos taken 60x

attachicon.gif0820-5.jpg front of specimen

attachicon.gif0820-5a.jpgback of same section

it appears to be an ancestrula with new zooid? growth rings

It does appear to be a fossil to me, and not purely geological. Maybe a calcareous, coralline algae or one of the mysterious cousins, like Solenpora?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solenopora

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I am fascinated by these white spherical objects--they are in 75% of my samples.

2 micro closeups

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