TheRealRaptor Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Hello all! I've had my eye out for some authentic avian fossils, but I'm not sure where to find some out in the scary internet world of forgeries. I am interested in just about everything from fossilized feathers to bones to tracks to scat to whatever!! It would help to know what kinds of things to look out for and where I can find them! Thanks, El - The important thing is to never stop questioning - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Auspex has them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runner64 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Try the natural canvas. That's one of the only places I've seen with a variety of bird fossils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealRaptor Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 Scylla - I am having trouble finding Auspex. All that came up was a pharmaceutical site, haha. Runner - The Natural Canvas looks promising! Thanks so much! - The important thing is to never stop questioning - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDudeCO Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Scylla - I am having trouble finding Auspex. All that came up was a pharmaceutical site, haha. Runner - The Natural Canvas looks promising! Thanks so much! Haha! Auspex is a moderator here and yes...he probably has them all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealRaptor Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 Haha, I'll check it out - The important thing is to never stop questioning - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) The auction sites have mostly forgeries so stay away from them. I like Natural Canvas, the Fossil Mall or Indiana9 fossils but there is not a lot there. I would suggest that if you find something don't hesitate to post here to verify authenticity. I say that because dealers may not be the best experts on what they sell. Edited March 28, 2016 by Troodon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raggedy Man Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Scylla - I am having trouble finding Auspex. All that came up was a pharmaceutical site, haha. Runner - The Natural Canvas looks promising! Thanks so much! ROFL ...I'm back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealRaptor Posted March 29, 2016 Author Share Posted March 29, 2016 The auction sites have mostly forgeries so stay away from them. I like Natural Canvas, the Fossil Mall or Indiana9 fossils but there is not a lot there. I would suggest that if you find something don't hesitate to post here to verify authenticity. I say that because dealers may not be the best experts on what they sell. Thanks for the advice! I found several interesting feather fossils on the Natural Canvas, and I saw that they had a complete microraptor at some point. That would be my DREAM fossil - a COMPLETE microraptor, haha. But they are rightfully expensive, and probably belong in museums where everyone can enjoy them. - The important thing is to never stop questioning - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealRaptor Posted March 29, 2016 Author Share Posted March 29, 2016 ROFL Still figuring everything out, haha - The important thing is to never stop questioning - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteseer Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Yes, the Natural Canvas is one of the few dealers that actually looks for bird stuff and makes an effort to identify bones correctly. The last time I visited their "world headquarters" (the garage), John was working on identifying a small lot he bought at Tucson last month. He has a big library of books and pdfs and he takes the time to go through them. Try the natural canvas. That's one of the only places I've seen with a variety of bird fossils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aplomado Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Fossilera has one now, from the green river. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealRaptor Posted March 29, 2016 Author Share Posted March 29, 2016 Fossilera has one now, from the green river. I just looked at it. Really cool! - The important thing is to never stop questioning - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) How old are you looking for? I have some odd avian bones from the mid Miocene (15 myo). Edited March 29, 2016 by caldigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealRaptor Posted March 30, 2016 Author Share Posted March 30, 2016 I'm completely open to all eras, but a Mesozoic avian fossil would be the most desirable to me. - The important thing is to never stop questioning - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Please conduct this discussion via PM. How old are you looking for? I have some odd avian bones from the mid Miocene (15 myo). I'm completely open to all eras, but a Mesozoic avian fossil would be the most desirable to me. The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prem Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Here is one that is Eocene, from a seemingly reputable UK website. PM me for the link (since we aren't supposed to share commercial sites here): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealRaptor Posted March 31, 2016 Author Share Posted March 31, 2016 Here is one that is Eocene, from a seemingly reputable UK website. PM me for the link (since we aren't supposed to share commercial sites here): Golly thats a good one! - The important thing is to never stop questioning - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealRaptor Posted March 31, 2016 Author Share Posted March 31, 2016 I really like the one from Fossilera. I'm having trouble posting a pic of it, but if you google "bird" on their website it'll come up. Its the Eocene one from the Green River. Great toes with excellent leg display. - The important thing is to never stop questioning - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike from North Queensland Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 prem / The Real Raptor The bone looks good in the photo for what I would expect for a bird but the matrix looks like a painted epoxy resin so unless the seller can explain that be careful. Most Mesozoic avian would be in museums and that where mine have .been donated Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glu Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 prem / The Real Raptor The bone looks good in the photo for what I would expect for a bird but the matrix looks like a painted epoxy resin so unless the seller can explain that be careful. Most Mesozoic avian would be in museums and that where mine have .been donated Mike That's the typical preparation in resin of the fossils that came from the Messel pit. There are a lot of fakes from there and I suggest to see those fossils in person. Some fakes are really well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealRaptor Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 prem / The Real Raptor The bone looks good in the photo for what I would expect for a bird but the matrix looks like a painted epoxy resin so unless the seller can explain that be careful. Most Mesozoic avian would be in museums and that where mine have .been donated Mike Thanks for the heads up! Nice of you to donate yours so that more people can enjoy them - The important thing is to never stop questioning - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealRaptor Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 That's the typical preparation in resin of the fossils that came from the Messel pit. There are a lot of fakes from there and I suggest to see those fossils in person. Some fakes are really well done Again, thanks for the warning! I've been looking for a good place to go look at some available fossils, but I don't have a place like that in my area as far as I know. - The important thing is to never stop questioning - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike from North Queensland Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 glu Thanks I knew that some areas they removed the matrix and imbedded the fossils in resin but have never seen a good photo before and for some reason I expected the resin to be clear. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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