dre464 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 I found this at the Wilson Clay Pit in July of 2015. I'm not sure what it is. Its quite small, approximately 8 millimeters. It doesn't have the look of a crinoid stem or brachials. Is it from a crinoid? Is it possibly a echinoid spine of some type? It is from the Harpersville Formation, Late Pennsylvanian, Virgilian Stage (288 to 286 MYA). The specimen is below. The scale is in centimeters. Any help is appreciated, as always... "Men became scientific because they expected Law in Nature, and they expected Law in Nature because they believed in a Legislator." - C.S. Lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 I would say it is a crinoid section. A picture of the end would help to make sure. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxytropidoceras Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) Yes, I agree. I would identify it as a steinkern, cemented sedimentary fill of the internal space (central axial canal) within a crinoid stem, from which the actual crinoid stem has been largely removed by weathering. Goe see, "Crinoid Columns, Figure 5A. Steinkern (internal mold)" in "Devonian Crinoids and Blastoids at the Falls of the Ohio and Surrounding Areas" at https://web.archive.org/web/20161106003833/http://www.fallsoftheohio.org/DevonianCrinoids-Blastoids.html . Yours, paul h. Edited November 6, 2016 by Oxytropidoceras added text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre464 Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 Thanks Tony and Paul! I hadn't thought about it being the internal space of a crinoid stem! It makes sense based on the rough texture of the surface. Normally, the preservation in this area is pretty good, so the rough texture is unusual. Thanks for the info! Daniel "Men became scientific because they expected Law in Nature, and they expected Law in Nature because they believed in a Legislator." - C.S. Lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 13 hours ago, ynot said: A picture of the end would help to make sure. Some columns with similar preservation : " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre464 Posted November 7, 2016 Author Share Posted November 7, 2016 Thanks abyssunder. There are a lot of similarities in this specimen to the ones that Alexandra found; particularly, the ring around each segment. Below are pictures of the ends of the piece. They don't really reveal a lot to me, but to more trained eyes (i.e., everyone on TFF) they may say more... "Men became scientific because they expected Law in Nature, and they expected Law in Nature because they believed in a Legislator." - C.S. Lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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