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Hello again, Paleo friends! It's been a while.

 

It was way back in my July trip to Summerville that I got this 2 14/16" horse tooth from the Hawthorne, the same formation producing the Megs in the area. Finally got around to finding an image compressor so I could actually show y'all:

 

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Flip side:

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Grinding surface:

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Root side (kinda blurry though):

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What do you guys have?

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You appear to have an Equus sp. right m3.   How are you confident that this tooth is out of the Hawthorn FM . . . it has the appearance of a river find which would make it "float" of uncertain origin.  Equus is a mainly Pleistocene taxon, not found in the Miocene Hawthorn.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Harry Pristis said:

 

 

You appear to have an Equus sp. right m3.   How are you confident that this tooth is out of the Hawthorn FM . . . it has the appearance of a river find which would make it "float" of uncertain origin.  Equus is a mainly Pleistocene taxon, not found in the Miocene Hawthorn.

 

 

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The tooth was found coming out of the same formation that the Megalodon teeth were coming from. I found it jutting out of the matrix in almost the exact same spot I found my complete Meg (no pics related though).

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Peace River, Pleistocene not Miocene

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Equus upper cheek teeth - Pleistocene

 

 

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Equus premolars - Pleistocene (lower premolar on left; upper premolar on right)

 

 

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Equus lower cheek teeth - Pleistocene

 

 

Here are a few of the dozens of Equus teeth that I've collected from the Trinity River Pleistocene sands and gravels in Dallas County, Texas.  

 

I'm with Harry on this one...as far as I know, Equus is not found in Miocene deposits.  There are other various 'equids' found in sediments of that age, however.  Unfortunately, for some reason I can't see MeargleSchmeargle's pictures.

 

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18 minutes ago, Fruitbat said:

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Equus upper cheek teeth - Pleistocene

 

 

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Equus premolars - Pleistocene (lower premolar on left; upper premolar on right)

 

 

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Equus lower cheek teeth - Pleistocene

 

 

Here are a few of the dozens of Equus teeth that I've collected from the Trinity River Pleistocene sands and gravels in Dallas County, Texas.  

 

I'm with Harry on this one...as far as I know, Equus is not found in Miocene deposits.  There are other various 'equids' found in sediments of that age, however.  Unfortunately, for some reason I can't see MeargleSchmeargle's pictures.

 

-Joe

 

I did find it in the same formation as the Megs (it was sticking out of the Hawthorne root side out). I'm guessing the material from pleistocene matrix got mixed in with the Hawthorne where I was, or something like that. That's the only explanation I can come up with.

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I don't doubt that for a second!  That was Harry's thought as well.

 

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it has the appearance of a river find which would make it "float" of uncertain origin.  Equus is a mainly Pleistocene taxon

 

I'm not personally familiar with the formations in your area (and I still can't see your pictures) so I'm really not equipped to make any comments other than the one I already have.

 

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7 minutes ago, Fruitbat said:

I don't doubt that for a second!  That was Harry's thought as well.

 

 

I'm not personally familiar with the formations in your area (and I still can't see your pictures) so I'm really not equipped to make any comments other than the one I already have.

 

-Joe

Not exactly "my" area. Live more than 200 miles away from Summerville. :faint:

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"Show us your equus teeth"

 

 

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All horsing aside, have a great Christmas everybody!

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20 minutes ago, caldigger said:

"Show us your equus teeth"

 

 

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All horsing aside, have a great Christmas everybody!

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Well played, well played.:P

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5 hours ago, Herb said:

Peace River

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Herb . . . If this is an Equus tooth, and it likely is, it is neither Miocene in age nor is it a lower molar.  It's an upper.

 

 

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Ah...so it's incisors we want now, is it....okay...

 

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Equus incisors - Pleistocene

 

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Thanks, Harry, It's Pleistocene, I forgot the label was wrong.

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Many vertebrate fossils are concentrated in lag deposits. In fact, if there is a concentration of separated vertebrate fossil elements it is almost certainly a lag deposit. Lags form at breaks in deposition so that the erosion at the top of the Hawthorne that concentrated the vertebrate material at Summerville would contain Hawthorne fossils eroded from that formation and other fossils from subsequent ages as well. This would depend on when the erosion and concentration occurred of course. Around here (SE NC)  we can even get lags with Cretaceous and Pleistocene concentrations where the Waccamaw Fm lays on top of the Peedee. Anything that resisted total destruction in previous erosional events and from a variety of ages may be found in the lag. Meg teeth, being large resistant clasts, are often found in these lags but there is no Miocene or Pliocene formation present. Best way of looking at this is to consider a pebble, a resistant clast, being found in a concentration in a lag deposit and our vertebrate fossils are only fellow resistant clasts.

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My best horse teeth.

 

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Sorry I'm slow as always, but are the O.P. teeth gone, or I can't see them?
The response when I click the images is: "The file you were looking for could not be found". :headscratch:

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1 hour ago, abyssunder said:

Sorry I'm slow as always, but are the O.P. teeth gone, or I can't see them?

They're right here!

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Oh...I thought you said Opie teeth.  Sorry!

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:rofl:

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