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Help with Identification of possible Prehistoric? Camel Tooth? Thank you for looking at this recent find. I found this on the banks of SE Ohio River yesterday. I used Google Lens to possibly identify this as an prehistoric camel tooth. Interestingly enough, this was found in an old trash dump? on the river with other antique broken pottery pieces. The river has widened over the years and now may envelop old dumps as the soil has eroded. Near the tooth, I found an old Indian Trade Pipe. I may be totally wrong, but I think this is a camel tooth. Many years ago, in the 1940's, I was told there was a circus here in this town and there were camels. I also just did a bit of research and found that John Robinson's Circus was at Middleport, Ohio in 1878 in the days when it traveled by boat. So, many possibilities! Thank you for looking!

This tooth is huge. It dwarfs a camelops tooth that I have previously found. Brazos River, southeast Texas.

Like I said in my last post in this section of the forum about a turtle nuchal element, I've spent some time hunting the Colorado River here in southeastern Texas since my usual go-to spots on the Brazos have been completely submerged for months from all the rain we've been getting this summer. Fortunately, it's paid off with some unusual finds that, if my hunches are correct, aren't anything like what I normally find. These two teeth in particular were found within inches of each other close to the water's edge, however, I don't think they're associated based on the difference in preservation and enamel coloration. My initial guess was bison for the tooth still lodged in a fragment of jawbone, and deer for the other. It wasn't until I started searching for comparison images in Hulbert's excellent Fossil Vertebrates of Florida and on the forum that I realized I was probably wrong. The isolated tooth is (as far as I can tell) much too large to be deer, and the tooth in the jawbone, while superficially resembling bison teeth in the raised enamel on its occlusal surface, is shaped differently from the more common bison teeth that I've gotten ahold of in the past. So my current tentative ID is camelid, either camel or llama. If I'm right, I'd be incredibly excited - I've always been more interested in the more bizarre megafauna that used to live in Texas during the last ice age. I'd be grateful if anyone can be of any help in either confirming or providing new IDs for these two. * The length of the occlusal surface for the second tooth is 2.10 cm.

Summertime presents challenges and rewards. Usually, you are digging in deeper water, even when you can find gravel. For me, this means 4 to 5 feet. Most times, I can not employ my favorite technique: dig down to whatever is underneath the gravel and spread out from the river bottom. I am basically scraping the top 6 inches of gravel. and thus I am depending on new gravel getting washed downstream by the faster currents. My finds tend to be less diverse and limited in numbers compared to winter hunting. So, 5 osteoderms, 4 Mastodon fragments, 3 mammal earbones, 3 gar scales, a bunch of medium" size shark teeth. But today, I am interested in that tooth, which I believe to be from one of Florida's Camel_llamas. So the tooth: It is quite small at 20 mm APL. A while back, @Harry Pristis indicated that faint crenulations on the enamel would more indicative of Palaeolama than Hemiauchenia. I seem to see faint crenulations. Twisting the tooth to match this comparison: makes me think it is a lower right or upper left molar. and specifically the one that seems most similar to me is the m1. So my net from all this speculation is that this is a slightly beat_up lower right jaw m1 from a Palaeolama mirifica. I am only about 70% sure and reach out to others who might have an alternative analysis or conclusion. Some alternatives: It might be an m3; It might be upper left m1; It might be Hemiauchnia; It might be a large deer tooth. Reinforcing the concept that single tooth identification is difficult. Jack

Hi guys! I think the first three are: Peccary molar Camel pre molar Coyote canine But I'm not super sure and would really appreciate a second opinion. I'm lost on the last two Any help or feedback is greatly appreciated as always! Thanks!

Inland Venice, FL tooth recovery. Pleistocene material. Found an Equus tooth approx. 15 feet from this on recently excavated, permission granted property. I think it is a camelid tooth x 2. Can't find a close match online, gallery, or textbook. The two teeth together are 27mm wide. This is the first time I have found teeth attached to a jaw fragment. ID assistance appreciated. Looking forward to numerous fossil recoveries after storm passes by my home on Tuesday. -Regards, Michael

Hi everyone! I recently got some Florida Pleistocene fossils and I'm having some trouble identifying them. I think the first is a wolf molar and the third is either a turtle or alligator claw but beyond that I'm stumped. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

@Harry Pristis Harry, I need your help on an ID and discussion of Florida Calcanea. These are great photos Harry, but I have found one that does not quite fit. It is shorter and wider than the examples. I think that the one I have found here may be Palaeolama mirifica and the camel calcaneum in your photos may be Hemiauchenia macrocephala. What do you think? As always, thanks for your expertise. Jack

Got back out to the Peace River yesterday, returning to the spot that gave me a nice bison tooth on my previous visit. It was 67* F on arrival and breezy. A bit unusual for Florida at this time of year! The water was warmer than the air temp. It was also a little deeper, more cloudy and running a little faster due to rain the previous night. I paddled up stream, portaged over a small area of rapids and was digging by 8:30am. Started off in the last dig spot but was turning up nothing but small shark teeth. It was enough to keep me encouraged but not enough to keep me from feeling the cold breeze. It got to the point where I put my life jacket on to help retain body heat - wind chill in Florida can make it feel downright cold! Who knew? With the first dig spot not yielding much I moved about 20' and started in on some fresh gravel. It wasn't long before I started picking up some nice finds. First was a nice horse molar - A little while later up came a small jaw bone - some type of rodent or fish? It measured 40 mm x 16 mm x 4 mm. All the while I kept picking up various shark teeth, pieces of turtle/tortoise shell, a small piece of dolphin jaw and 5 small turtle leg spurs. My digging was interrupted by another fossil hunter heading north on the river who stopped to chat for a while. Turned out he was not "aware" he needed a permit and said he would be sure to apply for one right away. This came up because he mentioned his hopes of finding artifacts and I let him know it would be illegal for him to take any from the river. When we started talking I had stuck my shovel into the gravel pile and turned away from it. After my visitor moved on I pulled up the shovel and sitting right on top was the largest complete turtle/tortoise scute I have ever found. It measures 79 mm x 55 mm x 10mm - maybe Giant Tortoise? - I was unable to find a match last night in my reference materials. The site continued to provide surprises with this camel cuboid popping up a little later - It measures 43 mm x 16 mm x 4mm I feel pretty confident in the ID thanks to a photo reference I found here on the forum created and posted by @Harry Pristis I include here for comparison - Thanks Harry! I think I had a great day with finds that also included a couple of alligator teeth tips and a cup full of various shark teeth - I think a return to the same spot is warranted on Monday!

Any thoughts from our mammal experts on a genus/species of this camel tooth? Size is 6x5 cm Pleistocene from Iowa thanks in advance!

I found this land mammal tooth at Flag ponds on Calvert cliffs. It got me really excited when I found a mammal tooth, But I have no idea what it is. I was thinking Camel or horse because that is what it resembles. If anyone can help me get a positive ID on this that would be great!

I'm thinking it's a camelid incisor. The guy I got this from over the weekend says he is not sure where it's from, the other fossils that are in the same collection where local pleistocene mammals and shark teeth. Obviously this tooth stood out to me as it is a much lighter grey than what's uasally found on the beach in that area, although not uncommon. Would just like to know if anybody can confirm camel or have another suggestion based on looks?

Hey guys, here's a fossil hunt I did with my Dad. We absolutely crushed it with a fossilized dire wolf tooth, a huge bison vertebra, two extinct Florida camel vertebras, a gorgeous extinct peccary tooth, some Giant Armadillo scutes and a few other things to boot. Hope you enjoy!

Hello, I have positively identified three other teeth today by looking through the FF gallery and UF Florida Museum collections. This tooth is different from the Equus examples. I could not match it up with camel either. Some of you have incredible collections. Fossil collected from retention pond spoils in North Port, FL. Hole depth 5-10 feet below sea level. Area near Little Salt Spring. Thank you in advance for your knowledge. Regards, Michael

Hello again. Ive been to big brook a couple times and have some more interesting pieces! So here we have two raptor teeth, a dwarf mammoth tusk and a dire wolf tooth...just kidding but hoping there as unique as im saying. The "theropod" teeth may just be worn shark teeth or enchodus. And the other two modern? So 4 things in total though. Thanks anyone.

Hello everyone! New member, just joined today. Great to be here! I live in Huntingtown, Maryland in Calvert County. Lots of Meg teeth and Miocene era fossils. Was trying to get some help identifying these mammal teeth. I found them on the Patuxent River right up from where I live on an embankment that backs up to a cliff. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Have been told Camel but not sure.

I found this along the Satilla River in Southeast Georgia USA. Can anyone help me identify what kind of tooth it is? It is very square in circumference. There are four holes in the bottom. It is fairly straight, not very curved.

Hello fossil folks! I am going through my bone collection from last season and would like to identify the five bones pictured. The most interesting one to me is #5 as I believe it is too long to be a horse. Perhaps camel? All of these bones were collected from a river in central Iowa. So far, my wife and I have found prehistoric bison, horse, sloth, mastodon and mammoth bones from the pleistocene period. I am pretty sure these are either Metacarpal or Metatarsal bones. Sorry but I do not have a metric scale for the pictures. I have labeled the bones 1 thru 5 and noted each bone length. Thank you!

A collector/dealer recently donated to our museum a small collection of Pleistocene vertebrate fossils (mostly mammalian) from Florida. Only a few items were labelled, and he could not recall any provenance for some of the material. Even though the material was poorly provenanced, it will make a welcome addition to our comparative collection of Pleistocene vertebrates. Can anyone help me with the provenance for the llama/camel (cf. Hemiauchenia) calcaneum in this phone-camera snapshot? I thought the attached oyster shells might help in narrowing down the possibilities. I was given a verbal location for this specimen (there was no label), but I am skeptical. Thank you!

Good day everyone, I'm looking into these two partial mammal skulls: An oreodont Merycoidodon and a Camel Poebrotherium. I'd like some help to find out if these are all real or have been partially fabricated, enhanced, composited, total fakes. Photos 1-4: Merycoidodon culbertsoni Oligocene Nebraska Photos 5-8: Camel Poebrotherium labiatum Brule Formation Oligocene-Whiteriverian Converse County, Wyoming

I'm not a huge fan of large bones but here we go: a glimpse to mammalian fauna of California 7-12 million years ago. Video is from our Christmas break trip to South California/Nevada. My favorite was a rhino tooth.

Hi guys! Recently i got these several teeth from one guy from the US.They were found somewhere in Florida but he doesn't know the exact names of the species which i'm looking right now. If someone could help it would be much appreciated. P.s. They are from pleistocene. Thanks, Darko

This tooth was found on a beach off the channel at South Padre Island. I am a shell and artifact hunter and have been finding fossils of late. I don't really know about fossils and have joined this group to help me learn and identify what I find. I have three fossils that I would love help with identification and I will post separately. Thanks so much!

This tooth was found on a beach off the channel at South Padre Island. I am a shell and artifact hunter and have been finding fossils of late. I don't really know about fossils and have joined this group to help me learn and identify what I find. I have three fossils that I would love help with identification and I will post separately. Thanks so much!

It was a long day, but a good one. I took my kids to 2 museums of sorts today. I drove the 2 hours down to the Waco mammoth site, which is now a National Monument as of 2015. It was cool to see and reasonably nice. It was very clean and neat, maybe just a bit too much so since it is supposed to be an active dig site. They have a very small visitors center combo gift shop, maybe 10 people could be in there at once. There are guided tours maybe every 30 min or so. Our guide was a National Park ranger in uniform. The was one other in uniform and a third not in uniform, who could have been a student. There is a nice paved path through lightly wooded Texas scrub as I call it. The path is good for the handicapped or stroller toting parent. They had little booklets for the junior ranger sorts with pics of plants and other life that may be found along the way, with coloring pages and facts about mammoths. Dogs were allowed on a leash. Just a few yards down the path is a 250 year old Texas live oak tree. I was actually a bit on the disappointed side with it. Part of that is because I’ve been to the South Dakota mammoth site, which is well developed. Those are wooly mammoths though, not the Columbian mammoths we have in Texas, which are considerably larger. The other part that probably had something to do with me being a bit disappointed was that I had expectations of seeing excavated mammoths on display. The dig site has been open and running for over 40 yrs. The initial discovery was made in 1978 by two teens out looking for arrowheads. 23 mammoths were excavated between 1978 to 1997. Per the website "Between 1978 and 1990, the fossil remains of 16 Columbian mammoths were discovered. Their efforts uncovered a nursery herd that appears to have died together in a single natural event. Between 1990 and 1997, six additional mammoths were excavated, including a large male (bull). Crews also uncovered the remains of a Western camel (Camelops hesternus), dwarf antelope, American alligator, giant tortoise, and the tooth of a juvenile saber-toothed cat (Smilodon sp.), which was found next to an unidentified animal." So I had the expectation that at least one of the mammoths would be mounted and on display. I believe many of the mammoths are complete. Our guide, a National Park ranger was very new and didn’t know much. Her answer to where are the bones of the 23+ was “They’re in plaster casts at Baylor.” You’d think after all that time and the big paleontology program they have at Baylor something would have been prepped and put on display by now. This is one of the females that is in the process of excavation, but I have a feeling she has been in the process of excavation since she is one of the 23 and the website says the other 6 were discovered by 1997. So, it seems it is not really an active dig site. You can see her teeth there. Sorry the pic isn't that sharp. The lighting inside was very low. This is mammoth Q a male. Supposedly he died 15,000 years later than the female, but there is all of maybe 2.5 between them vertically and maybe 5 feet horizontally. There is a creek maybe 40 feet way, the Brazos River is less than a mile away and the North Fork Bosque River is on the property. Water moves dirt. I seriously doubt there was 15,000 years between 2.5 feet of dirt in a flood plane, which it is in a flood zone. The mammoth bones are not fully mineralized. They are bone and kind of the consistency of chalk and therefore fairly fragile. I think they said this one would have been 14 feet maybe 7 inches tall. He was an average size male. The males are much bigger than the females. This is Q from the other end. Two females are to the right. Parts of 2 males are in front of him. Not all of them are in the pic. The column in the middle there is the reference column. The top of which is supposedly ground level. So it does not seem the male was that deep down in the dirt. The brakes in the ribs and the crushed skull are believed to have happened at the time of his death. There is a broken rib that healed while the mammoth was still living. That break is circled in red. They believe it was most likely due to a fight between bull mammoths where another male's tusks broke the rib which likely resulted in an infection, which healed. The skull is in the foreground. You can see it is crushed in. These are parts of the 2 other male mammoths. The two leg bones together are believed to be one of the individuals. That is all that has been excavated of him from what I gathered, but the guide said those two bones had been accounted for among the other 22 mammoths. This is another female. She is actually in a natural position and they say that she laid like this, because she knew she was not well or was going to die. Sorry for the quality of the pic. But this is a camel skeleton. The skull is in a plaster cast in the bottom kind of center. Signs say as much as I can. I'll post a bit more in the next post.