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Extreme shortage in high end dinosaur material
paulyb135 posted a topic in General Fossil Discussion
As a dinosaur tooth collector since 2018 I have been fortunate enough to obtain the majority of species I have been looking for in a relatively short space of time. That being said, in the last year I have noticed there has been a severe shortage of high quality dinosaur material available. Not just online but from private collectors too and those that have been available, the prices have shot up considerably compared to a couple of years ago for example. Perhaps Covid 19 is a cause of this. Im just curious as to why people may think this is and their theories behind it. Are people realising the worth of what they have and keeping hold of them? Is material simply drying up in the field? I’d love to hear your views and if anyone else has noticed this shortage in higher end dinosaur fossils, teeth in particular and also the drastic increase in prices for those that have become available (I appreciate prices and specific examples cannot be discussed). -
I recently purchased Niger fossils, and as expected, provenance was poor. I know it's ill-advised to buy fossils without good provenance, but I decided to take a gamble here. There was a sliver of hope in getting provenance as the seller could contact their source in Niger, but alas, outside Agadez is the best they got. The first fossil was sold as possible Kryptops, and 2nd just Theropod. I also got fish fossils from the same group. Elrhaz, Irhazer II, and Tiouraren appear to be the 3 formations in that region, and most fossils from Niger you often see for sale are supposedly from one of the 3. Not 100% sure if there are other formations to consider in the Agadez area. I know the white-ish fossils are typically the fossils attributed to the Tiouraren fm., but I don't think the darker or even solid black colored fossils are necessarily excluded. If Theropoda indet. is the best ID, that's fine. They're also not complete which is already bad in of itself. 9/10 times fossils from Niger have poor provenance, or none at all, so it's just on par for course. Tooth A - I think the denticle shape and density is wrong, and it might to be too big to be Kryptops. Distal Serration: 11/5mm Mesial Serration: 11/5mm Tooth B - Serrations appear to be worn under a scope. Distal Serration: 10/5mm Towards Tip - 11/5mm Towards Base Mesial Serration: 10-11/5mm Fish - Not really expecting ID from fish chunks. But maybe something about them might give away age . . . probably not. The group of specimens here are stuff I didn't buy, but belong to the same group. I saved pictures of all of them to possibly narrow down a formation or locale, though I'm assuming the diggers in Niger just pile up all their findings into one pot regardless of where they dug them up similar to the stuff from the Atlas Mountains in Morocco. I think the sauropods suggest Jurassic, but again, everything could have been piled up in one lot.
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I found this encased in limestone at a dig site in Wisconsin, USA. Its composition seems unusual for anything else at that dig site. It was deep inside limestone and most of the limestone easily pulled off with little effort. Is this an egg? It measures approximately 6.35cm x 4.5cm
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A gorgeous dinosaur bone given to me by a friend front and back photos
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Genuine Hadrosaur egg?
JohnBurrows posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
This is supposed to be a Hadrosaur egg from China, from an older collection. I'd appreciate any input. From the images I've seen its not obvious, but more convincing than some fakes I've seen. I'm afraid other than 'Hadrosaur' and 'China' I don't have any further information..thumb.jpg.fa38be47a6e9b77578138d60034547ce.jpg)
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Dinosaur Egg Real or Fake? Looking for an opinion
Akaspris posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
Hello everyone, I was hoping to get some opinions on an egg that I was thinking of purchasing. The description has it as either an oviraptor or a tarbosaurus. It seems to be in to good of shape making me question it. The dimensions are 33cm x 11cm x 10cm with weight of about 10 pounds. They are saying it is from the Djadokhta Formation of Mongolia and was from a private collection. There are some red flags from the description but thought I would ask for some opinions..jpg.8e67a73026225617d9905c86539d57312.thumb.jpg.9f9e48fd8216749daedeca19d59a2a3e.jpg)
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Some oddities while metal detecting can anyone help me ID this its like nothing else Ive ever seen before thanks!!!
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Hi I came across this rock near Marble bar Western Australia in a river bed. Can an anyone identify it for me is it a fossil?
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I've spent some time browsing this forum and I've noticed there is a huge range of fossil diversity between member collections and also within a members own collection so it led me to this thread idea.... let's see the best of the best in one area! What are your personal favourite fossils in your collection? To keep this sensible, maybe keep it to the top 2 in your collection (cos we all have more than just 1 favourite), what the fossil is, why it's in your top 2 and a couple of pics per fossil In my top 2 I have.... Megalodon tooth (96mm slant height), it's not my largest Megalodon tooth but it is the best condition, no chips on the blade, amazing enamel, good root etc and more importantly, besides a small Otodus tooth that got my attention first, this was the tooth that got me completely hooked on collecting teeth from very large sharks 2nd pick for me is my Carcharodontosaurus tooth (73mm total height). I've been into dinosaurs since I was a kid (39 now) and this is the real deal pointy end of one of the largest land carnivores to have ever lived! Also, the reaction you get from people when you say the word Carcharodontosaurus is priceless! (they're almost saying "say that one more time please..... and much slower")
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Wow is all I can say. I cannot believe what I have managed to find this week alone. I went to Texas for a vacation, and I’m coming out with some of my best fossils (in my opinion) I’ve found this year. I came here hoping to score some trace fossils of what once lived here, and score some, I did! Since there are two different time zones, and 4 different types of fossils found, I’ll split them up based on environment, and time. With marine fossils going first and tracks going second. Permian first, and Cretaceous second. I’ll do a picture of the whole haul and then we’ll get started. I also was able to capture some tracks that weren’t collectible so I collected them with my camera. Taking a fossil out of its place in a rock like that causes more damage than it does good, so all tracks were already eroded out and separated from anything scientific. Anyways, here’s the stuff: Permian Marine Fossils: Permian Footprint: while collecting today, I was hoping for a Permian footprint. Literally as I was about to leave, I found it! There was also another footprint attached to the rock but it fell off and scattered along the debris of similar colored rock. I wasn’t finding that anytime soon! But anyways, here it is. You can see a few sets of claw marks from the amphibian that once walked across it. I’m really happy I found this on a small rock and not one that I would have had to leave behind. cretaceous marine fossils: I also found a nice crab claw but it was so embedded into the rock that I just took a picture of it. Some things are better left to be appreciated by other people! cretaceous footprints: I found a bunch of footprints embedded into the rock, I of course didn’t attempt to take these out of their rightful place and I left them to be admired by others. I found one eroded out of the rock, and broken and incomplete, but it’s a footprint none the less. I’m pretty happy about all I found in general. It’s hard to see but the first two toes are there, and the only reason I’m confident this is a footprint is due to the fact that there were others around. All around a great trip and I still have more to find because I haven’t left yet!
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Help IDing tooth (sorry for the images). I was told Troodon, but I'm super confident it's not.
NewToothCollector posted a topic in Fossil ID
Hello folks. I'm a fairly new collector, but have done a lot of homework over the few months while I've been getting started with this hobby. The one specimen that I really want in my collection is a Troodon tooth. I just love the way they look. I'm pretty comfortable with where I usually get my teeth, and have a lot of confidence, but I haven't come across a Troodon. I found a seller that had this labeled as Troodon, but had some super blurry photos. I was very skeptical, because the serrations did not look right to me, even from the seller photos. The seller told me that if I get confirmation it is not Troodon, they will gladly give me my money back if I return the tooth. That made me purchase it, just in case I was missing something. So, I got the tooth, and from the naked eye it's impossible to see. I don't have any great camera gear or a super macro lens or anything, so this is the best I was able to get. From looking close up, I'm still incredibly confident that it's not a Troodon, but maybe someone here can prove me wrong (like @Troodon, perhaps)? My gut is telling me it's some sort of dromaeosaurid, what do you all think? The only info the seller provided was 0.32" and Judith River Formation/Northern Montana. Is it just super worn? Every Troodon tooth I've seen photos of has serrations on both sides. If these photos aren't good enough, I'll try to take some better ones. There's a lot of shadow and I can't get super close. These were (surprisingly) taken with an iPad, which gave me the best picture of any camera I had. Nothing next to them for scale, which I can add if needed. But like I said, the seller said 0.32" and that's about right from how tiny it is. Basically I'm trying to figure out if I should get my money back or not. Even if it's not a Troodon, if it's something of similar value (I know, value is in the eye of the person paying for it), then I'll probably just keep it anyway to add to my collection. Thanks for the help.
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I’ve been working on a display centred around dinosaur eggs and fossils of young dinosaurs. I’ve so far gained quite a bit and have some more fossils on the way for the display. I will work on getting photos of the individuals pieces for now I’ll leave everyone off with the whole display currently. I will update this as time goes on.
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I was recently was given what I was told is a dinosaur bone but I don't know what it is. It measures about 30 inches long and weighs about 1.3 pounds. Can anyone help to identify this for me?
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Ammonite sites in Montana, Wyoming, North & South Dakota!
PrehistoricWonders posted a topic in Questions & Answers
Hey everyone! I know it’s a long shot, but I’m currently in Montana and will be for abt 1 1/2 more days, and was wondering if anyone had any ammonite sites in Montana, South and North Dakota, or Wyoming, I’d be willing to trade a spot, or take whomever it was out to Ernst quarries, or trade fossils for the site, if anyone’s interested in that, please let me know. -
Triceratops Epoccipital fossil???
Big Mac boi posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
So I bought this triceratops Epoccipital online and was wondering if it's real here's the photos I took and some from the website Here's more photos I took
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This is my first rare fossil! It's Gallimimus bullatus toe fossil. It measured 8.5cm. I think it's juvenile. Discovered Area : Gobi Desert, Nemeget Formation
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Dino Egg authenticity - real?
BrettCo124 posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
Hey everyone! I posted this on a Facebook group and had some great responses. My question is, I recently purchased a segnosaur egg from a reputable dealer who has been selling Dino fossils for a long time now. I have read how some Dino eggs might be fake, and I figured I’d just ask the question and get your professional opinions. Because of the reputation of the dealer, I do believe it’s authentic. It’s not like I bought it off of online from a random person, but I still wanted to ask the question. What do you think? I appreciate your feedback. IMG_9607.MOV
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No location unfortunately as I bought this at an auction for my toddler (who loves dinosaurs and also poop). I am dying to know what creature plopped this deuce so my son and I can learn more about it. I know some of you on here are experts on ancient excrement, thanks for your help!! Measures: 4.5” x 1.5” Weight: 8.5 oz
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Hello from Brian. I am a new member from Iowa. I hunt for dinosaur fossils and white river mammal fossils in South Dakota and Nebraska. I have a nice collection over the 24 years of collecting. I like to hear about dino fossil finds. I found a new dino back in 2003 and donated it to a museum in Indianapolis. Hope to learn a lot on this forum. Thanks.
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Is this a genuine Camarasaurus fossil?
Big Mac boi posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
So I gave up on finding spinosaurus claws so I decided to switch carnivores to herbivores and to my surprise I found a lot of beautiful pieces like this and I was wondering if it's genuine or not
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These three are from Milk River, Hill County, Montana of the Judith River Formation. Seller has the first two labelled as Albertosaurus---So I am guessing they are actually Daspleto/Gorgosaurus and number 3 is sold as Centrosaurid, would I be right that Centrosaur isn't from Judith River and it should be unidentified ceratopsid---I notice there are quite a few found in Judith River. I'll put them ins eperate posts because there are a lot of photos supplied, which I hope will be helpful. Seller has been responsive in the past, so I can likely get additional photos if needed. Thanks for the help as always. This is tooth 1 - Sold as Albertosaurus, 1 inch long. Quite worn, but you can see some faint serrations. Tooth two -- Found at same place by seller. Sold as Albertosaurus, 1 inch long. Much nicer condition. I am curious about its different, fatter shape. If that means anything for ID or if it would just be from a different bit of the mouth.
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Are these real dinosaur eggshells?
dinosaur man posted a topic in Is It Real? How to Recognize Fossil Fabrications
Assert for bugging everyone with a topic like this, but are these dinosaur eggshells real? I know some of the photos are extremely blurry but it’s the only ones I have and the seller hasn’t got back to me yet for extra photos.
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Found in Scollard Formation. I read in an old trip report by @Ridgehiker that ceratopsian verts have an hourglass shape and thought this piece seemed to fit the bill. @Troodon
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Hello I started to collect fossils last year. I'm from South Korea. Nice to meet you all.
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Can anyone identify this?
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