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Just wanted to make a little thread telling everyone to stay safe and make sure they're all good and ready for what's to come!
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So found this today - my immediate thought was canine. Originally thought no enamel - but I brushed it, with a tooth brush - and it’s got white enamel. So… any help is appreciated! @Harry Pristis @Shellseeker After brushing:
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From the album: PLANT, WOOD & MINERAL SPECIMENS
In the Early Pleistocene, about two million years ago, this pine cone cob was driftwood in the paleo Santa Fe River. The waterlogged wood sank to the bottom in a basin in the river channel. They became buried in a highly organic mud during seasonal flooding. This anaerobic, low-energy burial preserved fine details such as bark and even insect borings. The cob is thoroughly mineralized with apatite -- it 'clanks' when two pieces are tapped together. It is not "silicified" as labeled. This pine cone cob is dated biochronologically by the vertebrate fossils also found in the mud, notably Holmesina floridana, a giant armadillo. Fossils of the beavers Castor and Castoroides, muskrats, grebes, cormorants, ducks, and large fish suggest that this was a backwater pool in the river.© Harry Pristis 2013
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So, since I now don’t trust myself to identify even the two types I thought I knew, what’s the consensus on this one and why is it so light? Found on Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida.
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Another bone valley ID - read this thread and I’m pretty sure it’s an ectocuneiform and not a Magnum or navicular. Measures 30x19x6.5mm. @Harry Pristis @Shellseeker @fossillarry
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Found this Astragalus today - and I can’t figure out if it’s Horse or Tapir. Seems too big to be a tridactyl horse astragalus, but the deposit I was digging in does NOT contain Equus - only tridactyl horse fossils have been found. Which leaves me thinking Tapir. @Harry Pristis @Shellseeker
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Outside of strolling the beach and finding shark teeth, I am a complete novice to fossil hunting. I recently hiked the Moonshine Creek trail in the San Felasco Park, located near Gainesville, FL. I found this mysterious tooth. I thought it might be a horse tooth, but a friend thinks it could be a tooth from an extinct camel. Any ideas on what I found?
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New collector seeking help with ID…I tried to research on my own and seem to only get more confused. Trying to learn!
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Promise this is my last one…I’ve been storing these up to figure out what they might be! All found on Ponte Vedra Beach in Northeast Florida.
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Who loves the sound of fossils tinkling against each other? Just me? What, oh what, could these be? Picture of fronts and then of the backs. You guys are so educational and kind to newbies.
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Do I have this right - Pufferfish mouth plates with red arrows. Next picture is reverse sides. Found in northeast Florida, Ponte Vedra Beach.
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My last time out hunting was 2 weeks ago, just before the deluge. Found some nice items including 2 small upper horse teeth, and then stopped at a hunting friend's home, where he sold me a number of fossils, including 4 additional small horse upper molars. 1st tooth I believe to be Merychippus from the Miocene of Florida. I found/donated one of these to Richard Hulbert, Florida Museum of Natural History 18 months ago. It looks like some HSBs --- Hunter_Schreger Bands are more easily discernible than on Equus teeth. Tooth #2.... One of my finds... a Nannippus I think... there were 4-5 species in Florida Tooth #3 Another Nannippus.... little bit larger... Look at that isolated circle on the left ... I wonder if that is diagnostic. Tooth # 4 is once again larger... might be Nannippus, but I am less sure.... Tooth #5 is not Nannippus,, which leaves lots of other Genus and lastly an interesting , different and slightly damaged tooth... Definitely need a thread to follow on this one... I have sent the Photos to Richard Hulbert, but with his semi_retirement, I would like to start depending on TFF expertise.... Usual suspects, @Harry Pristis, @fossillarry @siteseer @darrow Thanks for any and all insights and threads to follow... as Always I am after Genus, Species, Jaw position. All this starts with Genus.
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Wolves, Sharks and Armadillos, oh my! - Peace River Tributary - September 16th, 2022
Meganeura posted a topic in Fossil Hunting Trips
(Decided to do a bit of a different trip report this time - actual story to it, so it’s a bit longer. If you want to just see the finds, skip to the end!) So @Done Drillin and I had been individually exploring a certain tributary and sharing spots along it, and decided we should meet up and explore together yesterday. So as I’m bringing some of the stuff down to the water to load into the kayak, I see a little something poking out of the water. Should’ve taken a pic, but it ended up being this: A partial, left P4 Dire Wolf tooth. So I’m already thinking… well, that’s by far the best find of the day, may as well call it here! So we set off, passing by a 6’ gator (Having never seen any gators in this tributary before - just the “slides” they leave), and eventually reach the spot I had been hunting a couple weeks back. A Tapir must’ve died there - cause I found a senile incisor and some partial teeth, and Ron finds a complete tooth and a couple more partials - this after the rooted complete tooth and the canine I found 2 weeks ago. Ron also found some Mastodon frags, but it seemed like the spot was mostly tapped out, so we headed upstream to the spot he had last been checking out - where he’d found tons of associated mammoth molar frags and mammoth tusk, as well as some Megs. His finds from the last time he was there - tusk top right, mammoth on the left. The tusk pieces fit together: So we spend a while digging, finding more tusk and molar frags, Ron finding some pretty Megs, before I then find this: Another Dire Wolf tooth - this one ALSO a P4, but from the right side, and nearly complete too. I’ve never found Dire wolf before - so finding 2 teeth in the same day was crazy. Ron’s digging about a foot away from me too this entire time - on the other side of a log, and watched me also find a canine from something, another Pachy osteoderm (A “flex” osteoderm/Imbricating band… which they shouldn’t have. But I’ll cover that later.), a pretty, small, posterior Meg, and what I later learned was a Glyptodont tooth (At the time I thought it was more Mammoth). Finally we decide to head back to my spot a bit longer, and I find a pretty Equus m3 spit tooth before calling it a day. So finally the finds - starting with @Done Drillin‘s, all in one pic - plenty more tusk and mammoth frags, some very nice, almost complete Megs, a Tapir tooth and some partials. And for mine: Dire wolf teeth: Equus m3 spit tooth: Meg, partial tapir, tapir incisor, and Ray mouth plate that was really nice: The canine from something (Most likely Peccary tusk): First ever glyptodont tooth: A D. bellus osteoderm and a “Pachyarmatherium” flex osteoderm (So story here - Pachy info is based mostly off a 75% complete carapace in a private collection, since Pachys are super rare finds. Said carapace doesn’t have flex osteoderms, it was believed to have 2 layers of immovable shells. But I’ve now found 2 “flex” osteoderms that are far too thick to be D. Bellus, and far too small to be Holmesina, so it’s either Pachy or an as-of-yet undetermined species. Rachel Narducci at the FLMNH has confirmed Pachys don’t have imbricating bands - she’ll be checking the collection to see if she can figure it out soon): Snake verts, claw cores (nice ones this time!) a small gator coprolite, and some gator and croc teeth: And finally, my own tusk and mammoth fragment finds: Anyway, sorry for how long this ended up being! Hope you all enjoyed!- 5 replies
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So couple ID’s needed from today… 2 partial carnassials that I’m 99% certain on but would like confirmation, and 1 partial canine that I’ve got no clue on. Partial carnassials - Dire Wolf, right? It’s gotta be: And the canine - found in the same spot as one of the above teeth, but I don’t want to make any assumptions, so… @Shellseeker do you think THIS one could be smilodon? But really - big cat? Seems too blade-like for ursid or canid, but I could be totally wrong.
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I'd love some help identifying this fossil! The eggs(?) we found in the same area and depth. My current guess is that it's a fossilized turtle carapace?
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When I go home to Venice, FL I love to look for teeth and fossils. here is some of what I found I either can’t identify or desire validation! thank you 68426771997__5583E755-C0FD-4396-A04A-2F9E53A72A4A.MOV 68426792269__A09ADDCB-E33C-4D7F-88C4-CF73B34B434D.MOV 68426811878__150BA012-C156-445C-AD0D-BD3797AA4993.MOV 68426832807__D54E3555-54E4-468C-8970-64518085AFF6.MOV 68426858651__539C17A0-7384-474E-AC0F-B69A84A6B412.MOV
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Pachyarmatherium leiseyi vs Dasypus bellus comparison
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So I recently found an at-the-time unidentified small armadillo osteoderm in Paynes Creek. I immediately assumed due to its overall thickness - that being much thicker than the Dasypus bellus osteoderms I’ve found - as well as where I found it, that it was an osteoderm from the much rarer Pachyarmatherium leiseyi. My first step in confirming this was google, to which I found incredibly little information to discern between the two. There was plenty of info on D. bellus, however. My next step was to check here, including the thread that @Shellseeker had created and linked me when I found a D. bellus osteoderm a few months ago: Where I’d say that the results seemed inconclusive at best - all that was discussed was that P. leiseyi is “thicker”. No numbers, nor comparison. Following that, I went to the next most reliable source - Richard Hulbert, who ID’d it as a baby glyptodont osteoderm. Which really didn’t seem quite right to me - it was MUCH too small as far as I was concerned, and also much too thick, being nearly as thick as my much bigger glyptodont osteoderm. So I spoke to @digit, who recommended I reach out to one Rachel Narducci also at FLMNH, specializing in Xenarthra, and thus would most likely be able to help me. She got back to me, after comparing with FLMNH’s own collection, that it was indeed a P. leiseyi osteoderm! I had also asked for more detail in comparing them, so I could properly make a post here comparing them, prompting this post! So first Rachel’s description: “The difference in thickness is the big giveaway. I cannot find a single dasypus osteoderm that is anywhere near the thicknesses of the pachy osteos. The pachy osteoderms are also very rounded while those of D. bellus are polygonal with more angles and some even being rectangular. The dorsal outer surface of your pachy looks a bit worn (or the picture is kind of dark), but the peripheral figures around the central round figure are larger, more bulbous or inflated, and more separated than those of Dasypus bellus. D. bellus osteoderms have a larger central figure surround by the peripheral figures, but they are all pretty flat and very close together. The central figure of D. bellus also seems to take up more space on each osteoderm than it does in the pachys.” Finally, here are the pictures - starting off with my own Pachy osteoderm: Then the D. Bellus osteoderms I have: A comparison of them: And similarly from Rachel, the Pachy osteoderm is in the middle of 5 D. bellus osteoderms: Comparing thickness: And finally, more examples of P. leiseyi: Hope this helps anyone else who is struggling to identify and compare between the two! -
So was sorting some older fossils and came across this one - originally I had it in my “random bone bits” drawer - but it looks relatively complete albeit somewhat worn. My initial thought was something similar to an astragalus - some kind of joint. Wondering if an ID might be possible. @Harry Pristis @Shellseeker @Brandy Cole
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Peace River Tributary - September 2nd, 4th, and 5th, 2022
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So went hunting a few times this weekend - and I found myself a spot! It produced, and produced, and produced some more, and may still have some left to give, though I probably won’t be going back for a couple weeks. Surprisingly, no Megs. Couple tiny frags. Shark teeth in general were relatively scarce here, but that’s okay - I was hunting for mammal stuff anyway. So to start off with my best find - an absolutely stunning, complete, most of the roots still there, Tapir tooth: Following that up with a spectacled bear molar cap: An opossum jaw with 4 teeth: Tapir partial, Tapir canine, and Llama incisor: Muskrat jaw, Camel tooth, and partial horse incisor: 2 Deer teeth, 2 River otter teeth, and 2 Peccary teeth: And to cap off the teeth - Raccoon jaw with tooth and a bunch of other raccoon teeth: For the rest of the finds - a Gator vert: All kinds of armadillo osteoderms including 1 Pachy, and 1 possible Pachy flex osteoderm (second row, last on the right): Big bone chunk I’m still waiting on an ID for, antler pieces, and 5 tortoise spurs: Vertebrae of varying kinds including snake, frog, dolphin, fish, and shark - including the biggest shark vert I’ve found which also happens to be perfect. (Minus the limestone which I’m currently carefully scraping away): Deer phalanx, cetacean ear bones, and claw cores: And finally, thresher shark teeth, a symphyseal lemon tooth, and a whole bunch of gar fish scales: Not included: like 9 gator/Croc teeth, some dermal denticles, lots of tusk and Probiscedean tooth frags, some bones that are neat but I can’t ID, and a decent bit of shark teeth. -
Forgot to ask about this one yesterday! Just a fragment, but hopefully enough for an ID - my initial thought was bison but I’m sure horse is also possible!
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More Claw cores, a bone, an ear bone and a vertebrae? - Peace River
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Last IDs needed for the day - 2 claw cores, a bone I’m not sure on, what I originally thought was a broken armadillo osteoderm but now is looking deliberate (especially since I found 2 similar ones), and a chunk of a vertebrae 1) Starting with the armadillo osteoderm/ear bone: 2) Then the bone: 3) The vertebrae: 4) Claw core 1: 5) Claw Core 2: Thank you very much in advance! @Harry Pristis @Shellseeker @Brandy Cole -
I found hollow fossil this in a creek bed in Alachua County. I would really appreciate help identifying it. Thanks.
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