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Two fossils from Miocene limestone on Yapen Island, New Guinea, Indonesia
David Cothran posted a topic in Fossil ID
Hello, I collected these two fossils on Japen Island, in Cenderwasih Bay on the north coast of West Papua, New Guinea. The site is Miocene carbonate rocks, just above sea level. First and second images are two sides of specimen 1, with a one Euro coin for scale. Third image is a close up of the side shown in image two. Fourth image is specimen 2, again with the one Euro coin and the fifth image is a close up of that. Specimen 1 looks like Syringopora coral to me. Really no good idea about specimen 2; bryozoa? Any help with ID is very much appreciated. Thanks!- 4 replies
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Hi, this thread is for sharing with the community what have emotionned you, souvenirs, facts, events,... Now i'd like to share with you that moment of our television that marked me because it shows how much the music can communicate and cause emotion to people who have no way to understand the words they hear. We had a TV programme called "Terra Incognita" in which the host, Frédéric Lopez, invited celebrities to a country where they'd never have the idea to go to and in which those celebrities discovered their destination when they were in the plane. Here, he invited our singer Zazie to Paspua New Guinea, to discover the Ndahi's clan, members of the Korowaïs tribes. And she sings them one of her song : I am a man of Cromagnon https://binged.it/2K3keEr Or http://youtube.com/watch?v=GIQ-LoC4I_A, without the discussion before. Here is the traduction of the discussion they had, just before and after it : Before : Frédéric Lopez : "After two days of forced rest, Zazie is again among us. For Nothing in the world would she miss our last evening with N'dahi and his family, rare beings, we had the privilege to meet and who we'll leave in a few hours." Zazie : "When we find it good me make.... I, in my country,... to have my food, i don't now how to say it, to feed myself, to have what to live,... i sing. And, if the people like my song, they give me enough to buy my food, and, if they don't like it, i can't buy my food. Anyway, i brought a small guitar, which name is babe. It's a baby guitar, babe guitar." N'dahi : " We never saw one, we don't know that instrument." Zazie : "I must make the strings sound just, before, for it to be more pretty, then, it will take a little time." N'dahi : "I don't know the sound, so, there is no problem, if you want, you can play directly." Zazie : "Yes but, i know it, it is as if you made the Saghou bad, you wouldn't like it, i like when it is quite good. It will be almost good, because i'm not good in guitar. Ah, yes. (Music) Here, for example,...otherwise, then,..., this song, has some weight here, i think." After : Zazie : "I made you cry, but they made me cry. There is no need to cry. Usually, the music is made to be happy, and to be loved too. Sometimes, the music, allows to say what is in your heart and what we hide. Here is why i chose the music, because, from time to time, with the words, i find hard to say what i have in my heart when it is sad. With the music, i say what is in my heart when it is sad, and after, i feel better. It allows me,... to say the, well, what can't be said." Man : "I'ts really nice, as when i hear birds singing when the weather is fine. Then i think about the child i lost. Don't be shocked." Zazie : "I'm not shocked, at the contrary, i think you received the music with your heart and your emotions, and i, it is all that interest me, when i play music." Man : "It is not because it reminds me about my lost child and that i cry, that you must stop playing music, you can go on, we love it." Zazie : "OK, then, if your heart is happy and if you don't want, you want a song that makes you happy, i'll play a song a little, a little more enthusiast."
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I have an ammonite(?) that I received circa 1990 from a missionary who said that it was "brought down from the mountains by monks" in Papua New Guinea. Apparently, there is relatively little known about the palaeontology of the area. There are similar ammonites showing up in native tribal art pendants (see article in "Deposits Magazine" HERE The article indicates that it is not known whether these ammonites that are showing up are recently imported or of local origin. I suppose mine could have been imported, but given the date of acquisition and what I was told, I am inclined to think it was collected in situ in Papua New Guinea, but I can't be certain. The geologic map I found did not distinguish between periods in the Mesozoic, so I don't know if it is Cretaceous or Jurassic, etc. I did find 2 papers (Both available as .pdf online): Tatsuro, M & S.K. Skwarko. 1991. Ammonites of the Cretaceous Ieru Formation, western Papua New Guinea. J. Australian Geology & Geophysics 12(3): 245-262 Tatsuro, M & S.K. Skwarko. 1993. Cretaceous ammonites from south-central Papua New Guinea. J. Australian Geology & Geophysics 14(4): 411 - 433. The closest resemblance of the taxa in those papers was Subthurmannia (Fauriella) boissieri. In doing my own searching, I thought Macrocephalites bifurcatus (middle Jurassic) looked like a good match and has been collected in Papua (see link to museum specimen HERE). The preservation of that specimen appears to match mine, too. Here are some pics of my specimen. Any help from the ammonite enthusiasts would be greatly appreciated! @Ludwigia