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In preparation for making a trip report from my recent visit to Florida, I have to ID many (sorry!) finds that are unfamiliar to me. Here goes. Unknown coral? Dugong process from Thoracic Vertebrae WHALE JAW OR RIB Really odd to me Pig snout??? Just kidding! Fish vertebrae? TIP OF A BILLFISH I have seen this somewhere but can not figure it out. NURSE SHARK TOOTH!!! TRIDACTYL HORSE UPPER MOLAR . Sorry about this picture. Two fossils were actually added to the same photo. Ignore the Two with X's. I placed them in a second photo (10 b) . Vertebral pieces? Whale? What is the projection on 10a? 10 A AXIS VERTEBRAE OF SMALL WHALE SLOTH?? FOOTPAD BISON TOOTH FRAGMENT BILLFISH TIP Small bone FROM WHAT?? FISH TOOTH CRAB CLAW!! TORTOISE CLAW CORE SAWFISH ROSTRAL TOOTH Fish Pectoral Spine, Catfish? BEAR CLAW Thanks for any insight!! Mike
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Have some Peace River finds that I could use some help identifying. The first I believe to be a camel but it has one fossa that appears slightly like bos and the other a camel/ llama . Also the size is quite a bit larger than other camel teeth I have collected. The second and third finds have me stumped despite going through my reference books.
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Part Fossil, Part Nature, Part Art, and Part Friends
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Another year gone by and time to do this year's Florida Trip report. As the title says, I am going to mix and match fossils with nature, art, and the great comradery experienced during my trip. To start with, lets provide a visual for those who have never been to Florida. They say the roads are paved with fossils. This is partially true in that fossils often form the base for which pavement is then applied. Here is an example of a bike trail in development. Thankfully I was able to extract a few nice finds before asphalt was applied. As someone recently said in a post, easy pickins!! This material was obviously screen washed. The Tamiami is represented more typically in the following photo. Still easy picking, but one must look a little closer to extract it's gems. I have developed an expansive collection of Tamiami gastropods, corals and bivalves over the years. So I limit myself to just one of each species encountered, hopefully improving on the quality in my collection. Here are some of this year's finds. I mentioned part of my report will deal with nature. Here is a snowy egret that was photographed at the motel we frequent. It is known by Virgil to those that stay here. As can be seen, he is quite friendly and comes into our room for snacks!! This interesting crab was seen at the beach frequently. As was this Manatee, which preferred waist deep water, allowing us to dip into the ocean with her. When visiting Florida, I am always blessed with an inland trip to hunt fossils with forum members. This year it was @Shellseeker that invited me on a hunt. Accompanying us was Steve (center), our guide, and my son, Tristan (on the left). Get a load of these shovels!!!!!!!!!! Initially, I suspected they were kidding and we would be using less colossal equipment. Maybe the length is needed to keep the gators at bay. It seemed to work in that No alligator was seen. Now just some of our finds. . This is fish, not shark vertebrae. SMALL bone of unknown source Fish tooth: These were just a few of our favorite finds. Now to regress back to nature. My wife and I met up with Jack (Shellseeker) and his wife on Sanibel Island for a lovely lunch. Say hello to Barb! Afterwards we drove through the J.N. "Ding" Darling National Wildlife Refuge and snapped a few pictures . The finds of the day came from Steve, who found this nice meg and gave it to my son. And then there is Jack who found this gorgeous Sloth tooth. Great job, guys! Just when Jack came up with this sloth tooth, I put him to shame with mine!!!!!! Hopefully those viewing this will not notice, mine is a dugong rib posing as a sloth tooth. Don't tell Jack! To be honest, Jack may be pulling a fast one on me. As I looked over my Florida pictures, I noticed something of concern. What is in Steve's mouth? Does it not appear to be the "tooth" in Jacks hand?? I will let YOU be the judge. During one day when my back was tired of fossil hunting, we visited the Salvador Dali Museum in St Petersburg. Dali was a surrealist artist who produces bizarre images in his works of art. As an example, here is a lithograph titled "Lincoln in Dalivision", when viewed from afar is a remarkable image of Abe. This is a museum worth experiencing if in the area. Where would a trip to Florida be without a bunch of shark's teeth to show off. Enjoy this pile of chompers. Like Dali, I enjoy surrealism so created this for you Another wonderful vacation must come to a close. Hope you enjoyed it!!- 9 replies
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I found these shells in Peace River, FL... The first one looks like a oyster but the shell has changed..... The second one looks like a fossilized shell..... Any idea what they are??? Thank u for ur time...
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Found this small interesting specimen on the Peace River, FL almost two weeks ago. I gave been working on an ID since and have jumped between a tooth and claw and back again. My first thought was a mammal canine or incisor. I couldn't find a match and then started thinking cetacean. The curve to the tooth and the "chisel"shape of the tip didn't support this idea. Then I started to think maybe it's a claw. This possibility seemed supported by the crenulated area that circles the specimen near the thicker end. Either way I am stuck at this point and hope for some help in furthering my I effort. @Harry Pristis, @Shellseeker, @Bone Daddy anyone recognize what this is? Specimen measures 22mm Long x 10mm Wide at its thickest. It tapers to 5mm at the tip.
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I am hoping for confirmation from one of our Peace River, FL experts on a bone I picked up last week. I am always looking for new land mammal finds (at least new to me) and I think I have one here. After several hours on line and looking through Kocisis' Vertebrate Fossils guide I believe I have nailed this down as a seismoid, lateral malleolar of Hemiauchenia macrocephala. The protruding "point" is quite distinctive. The specimen measures 35mm Long x 17 mm Wide x 28 mm tall. Input from anyone who believes they can confirm the ID would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Found this bone in Peace River, FL.... Looks like a hip or leg fossil.... Any ideas??? Thank u for ur time...
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It’s lighter in weight than I would expect for a tooth of that size. Found in the Peace River in Wauchula, Florida. Thanks.
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This small molar, which I'm assuming is to a smaller horse ancestor, measures 13mm by 23mm. I'm hoping Harry @Harry Pristis or Jack @Shellseeker can give me some additional info on it. The chewing surface looks like it's been polished down somewhat by the river.
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I was out on the Peace River, FL yesterday and found several interesting fossils. By taking advantage of many of @Harry Pristis excellent photo arrays I identified teeth found yesterday as domestic pig and a horse incisor. Unfortunately, even with Harry's example of cow vs bison and looking at several other sources I am still unable to decide if my find is bison. So I am hoping for some input from all of you to help with a definitive ID. The crown/bite surface of the tooth measures 32mm x 28mm. In the first photo I have placed yesterday's find on the left and what I believe to be a cow molar on the right. The remaining photos are of the tooth found yesterday. It is larger and much bulkier than what I believe is the cow tooth.
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I usually do not hunt Sundays and never on a Sunday Holiday. However, I usually hunt with Steve and Dave on the Peace River, Dave was returning North soon, so Steve called last night and twisted my arm to go hunting today to a location where we had found lots of larger Tiger and Hemipristis shark teeth 3 or 4 years ago. You can never go home again, but sometimes lightening strikes. None of us found large Tigers and Hemis, The location had been heavily dug since we were there last. For 3 hours the three of us were finding only 6-7 small shark teeth per sieve, which is not particularly productive. But the sun was shining, temps were 90 degrees, but we were staying cool in the caress of the Peace River. We just were not finding much despite moving frequently upstream to different locations. Then I found a gravel pocket that seemed to be missed , maybe refreshed, but it had 15 small shark teeth, and then in the next sieve, a Horse tooth.. that figures because they always expect me to be the lucky one. The next sieve I found a very nice sloth tooth. The pocket ran out , we kept on digging with few results, and I went about 150 feet upstream.. probing for gravel, trying to find another pocket of virgin gravel. Time ran out on the day and I returned downstream to Dave and Steve. While I was upstream, Steve found a Dire Wolf molar, and Dave found a Bison molar. I did not say anything about luck, but I was really pleased that we all found one great fossil, when for a long while it seemed all we would find would be small sharks teeth. So here are the 3 finds. Close up on the sloth: This is a 2nd molar of Paramylodon harlani. Close up of the Dire wolf tooth: I was fortunate to find this great photo, courtesy of the NY Times on my searches. Looks like La Brea fossil. A comparison: The whole tooth In fossil hunting, as in most things in life, it pays to be lucky. Enjoy. Jack
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I have some broken end bones that I'm sure u guys will know.... =). (Found in Peace River, FL) Thank u for ur time.
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Another great weekend in Peace River FL... Need help IDing these...
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Back in February, I found some Carpal bones which turned out to be lunars from Florida camel/llama. There were about 32 mm in length. http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/121276-tarsal-carpal/&tab=comments#comment-1329883 Now I have a newly found another carpal. It is 25% shorter and not as massive. Note the 3 articulation points. I believe these are only present in Scaphoid and Scapholunar (merge of Scaphoid & Lunar) bones. I would be more comfortable with confirmation of the tpe of carpal. I sent a note to Richard Hulbert at University of Florida. His response did not make me comfortable that we would identify the mammal. I have looked at the Scaphoids of a number of candidate mammals. It does not seem to match felid or canis. It does not match horse or camel/llama. It does not seem to match marine mammal. I am definitely looking for help and just hope someone on the forum ( @Harry Pristis @digit, @PODIGGER @Sacha) has seen something similar). Even if you can not ID the mammal, please give me pointers 1) Which Carpal is this bone? 2) What is the size of the mammal ? I am thinking 100 pounds based on Carpal Size. 3) Do you have Carpals or Tarpals in this size range 20 - 25 mm ? 4) Every mammal has carpals.. I though and checked Dolphins, rare cats, wolves, coyote... Do you have additional suggestions on fossil mammala of florida I should check. I am wondering about Racoon. I also thought about human, but they are different and bigger than this find.
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In everyone who has been or frequents the Peace river in your opinion is it worth the trip? I’ve been many times and it seems like many of the good spots are all but tapped. I know there are always new fossils eroding out of the banks but still is it worth it for sifting?
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Found the fossil pictured below in the Peace River, FL yesterday. My first thought on pulling it out of the sifter was osteoderm. The squareness of the object and bone appearance led me to this idea. The thickness and overall size is similar to the rosette shaped ones I have found. Problem is I haven't found any examples of a similar shaped glyptodont osteoderm. The specimen is too thick to fall into the giant armadillo range. Could it be a partial glyptodont or is it just something else. Maybe turtle? Any input/ideas are appreciated. Specimen in inches - 2 1/8" x 2" x 7/8" In millimeters - 60mm x 55mm x 25mm
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This is my final ID question. I promise. Until the next one. I'm thinking an alligator tooth with a very worn crown. Tom
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Hello again. Found in the Peace River. My uneducated guesses......armadillo claw, extremely well worn large shark tooth. Notice that it bends in two planes. Does this rule out the claw ID? As always, thank you in advance for any help. Tom
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A good friend of mine just gave me a bunch of stuff, mostly sharks teeth, from the Peace River. I came across this. What is it? A micro vertebrae? Any help waould be appreciated. Thanks. Tom
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Hi everyone! My family and I are staying in Boca for a week and half in a month and while I'm in Florida I was hoping to hunt the Peace River. It will be my first time at that site and I was hoping to see if anyone has any tips about hunting there and avoiding hazards environmental and large/scaly. P.S. Yes I am aware it is a three hour drive, I live in Houston, that's near the minimum I have to drive to find anything. I am fine with that.
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My son found this tooth today. We believe it is a herbivore tooth based on the flat smooth surface. We're uncertain though, and would appreciate any info you may have.