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I posted this in my gallery, since it is my first echinoid, and now the comments have me curious. Does anyone know the genus and whether these are uncommon in the area? I've found one paper about echinoids in the Goose Creek Limestone (Miocene-Pliocene fossils), which is one of the possible formations where this was found (ex-situ). Chandler Bridge (Oligocene) is also present, and possibly a Pleistocene lag deposit that contains reworked Miocene fossils. Being the first one I've found (compared to thousands of shark teeth), I would think they are uncommon; just trying to find out to what extent. Thanks so much! Approximately 26 mm across at widest point.
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The Goose Creek Limestone is early-mid Pliocene and contains un-reworked Miocene-Pliocene fossils. ID references: 1. Gale, B. (2020). A Beachcomber's Guide to Fossils. The University of Georgia Press. 2. Kocsis, L. (2007). Central paratethyan shark fauna (Ipolytarnóc, Hungary). GEOLOGICA CARPATHICA-BRATISLAVA-, 58(1), 27 3. Maisch IV, H., Becker, M., & Chamberlain Jr, J. (2015). Chondrichthyans from a lag deposit between the Shark River Formation (Middle Eocene) and Kirkwood Formation (Early Miocene), Monmouth County, New Jersey. Paludicola, 10, 149-183. Stratigraphy information references: 1. Boessenecker, R. (2008, May 13). The Ashley Phosphate Beds: the Reconstruction Era, Vertebrate Paleontology, Fossil Preservation, and Stratigraphic Confusion in Charleston, South Carolina. The Coastal Paleontologist. https://coastalpaleo.blogspot.com/2018/05/the-ashley-phosphate-beds.html. 2. Campbell, M. R., & Campbell, L. D. (1995). Preliminary biostratigraphy and molluscan fauna of the Goose Creek Limestone of eastern South Carolina. Tulane Studies in Geology and Paleontology, 27(1-4).
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Despite not really feeling up to hunting yesterday (I'm getting discouraged by my finds lately), I decided to go while the weather was still decent. And when you are not expecting to find much and/or set the bar pretty low, it makes it easy to exceed your expectations and have a pretty good trip. Here is what I brought home: First up are the odontocete fossils: My first ear bone ever: And a vert and related piece of bone that were sitting together under an uprooted tree: That's it for cetaceans, but that is pretty good for one trip for me. Other verts (not in good shape, though): Burrfish mouth plates (also not good condition): Ray mouth plate pieces and my biggest tail barb so far: Random osteoderms and bone pieces (I keep less than half of the bones I find): Various steinkerns, which I try to limit now as well, but the spiraling ones are cool: Gator tooth that was still partially in matrix: Fish jaw with teeth (maybe...let me know if you recognize it): Crab claw, I think: What I believe is my first piece of petrified wood here (again, feel free to correct me): And, of course, shark teeth: My best Great White so far: My first Angel shark tooth (shoulder and tip of crown are broken): A cool looking tooth - posterior sand tiger I believe: And the rest of the teeth (including a couple broken threshers, a barracuda, a sawfish/sawskate, etc.), which I won't show individually: As always, I wish my body could have handled a few more hours of hunting, but between little rain (no new wash-out), low creek water levels, rising heat, and health limitations, I think it turned out to be a pretty good haul. And no speeding ticket this trip! Thanks for reading!
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I had a pretty good day of hunting yesterday and am planning to do a trip report, but I need help IDing one item first. When I first picked it up, I thought it was a odontocete tooth. Once I got home and cleaned it up, it looked like parts of it were peeling and there was white underneath. I have tried to peel it more, I have tried the flame test to see if it would melt or smell, but nothing seems to affect it. Any idea if this could be an odontocete or other tooth, or if it's man-made? Found in the Summerville area in a black-water river offshoot, where everything gets a black covering, but it doesn't normally peel like this. Have previously found odontocete teeth in the exact spot where I found this one. 16mm total length, "crown" is about 2mm thick. Thank you!
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Many creeks in Summerville, SC have multiple formations present, so finding a fossil ex-situ often makes identifying the specific formation difficult, especially for those fossils that spanned multiple epochs. Since Acanthocybium solandri were present in the area beginning in the Oligocene, the following formations are possible: Oligocene: Chandler Bridge Formation and Ashley Formation Pliocene: Goose Creek Limestone (early-mid Pliocene), which contains un-reworked Miocene-Pliocene fossils Pleistocene: Ten Mile Hill Formation, which is a mid-Pleistocene lag deposit that can be found overlying older formations in the area. While many Pleistocene fossils in the area are from land mammals, Miocene-Pliocene fossils have been found in the base of the Ten Mile Hill Formation. ID references: 1. Collette, B.B., & Russo, J.L. (1984). Morphology, systematics, and biology of the Spanish mackerels (Scomberomorus, Scombridae). Fishery Bulletin, 82, 545-692. 2. Godfrey, Stephen J. (2018). The Geology and Vertebrate Paleontology of Calvert Cliffs, Maryland, USA. Smithsonian Contributions to Paleobiology. Book. https://doi.org/10.5479/si.1943-6688.100 3. Ray, Clayton E. and Bohaska, David J. 2001. Geology and Paleontology of the Lee Creek Mine, North Carolina, III. Washington, D.C.: Smithsonian Institution. https://doi.org/10.5479/si.00810266.90.1 Stratigraphy information references: 1. Boessenecker, R. (2008, May 13). The Ashley Phosphate Beds: the Reconstruction Era, Vertebrate Paleontology, Fossil Preservation, and Stratigraphic Confusion in Charleston, South Carolina. The Coastal Paleontologist. https://coastalpaleo.blogspot.com/2018/05/the-ashley-phosphate-beds.html. 2. Sanders, A. E., Weems, R. E., & Albright III, L. B. (2009). Formalization of the Middle Pleistocene ‘Ten Mile Hill Beds’ in South Carolina with evidence for placement of the Irvingtonian-Rancholabrean boundary. Papers on Geology, Vertebrate Paleontology, and Biostratigraphy in Honor of Michael O. Woodburne, 363-370.
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I am doing some research on some of my newer interesting finds and am struggling a bit on this ray mouth plate: I have a local book that lists it as a Pleistocene cownose ray (Rhinoptera sp.), but in doing literature searches, I cannot find any pictures that have the same design for the "adjoining teeth" (I know that specimens this complete are hard to find). I understand that there are multiple species of Rhinoptera and that it is difficult to tell them apart. I am also finding conflicting information on when the Rhinoptera genus came about (so far, I have found Oligocene, Miocene and Pleistocene). I found this in a creek that is heavily Oligocene but where I have found a layer of Miocene fossils, which I believe (if I understand what I have read) is actually a Pleistocene lag deposit. Can anyone clarify if this can actually be IDed down to the genus (and if Rhinoptera is correct)? Thank you...I have spent the last two days just trying to gather enough information for two fossils for the Collection Reference Museum.
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I thought I posted this earlier, but I don't see it, so I assume it didn't save. My apologies if it's a duplicate! I'm having trouble IDing this tooth, found in Summerville in a creek that has mainly Oligocene but definitely has some Miocene from an overlying lag deposit: Slant height is 23mm, width is 17mm. Here are my thoughts: 1. Sand tiger: curve is consistent with sand tiger, but it doesn't have cusps, a nutrient groove, the "bulge" typically in the center of the root, or the typical root shape. Other sand tigers I've found here, all having the root bulge: 2. C. hastalis: both the root and crown seem a little narrow for a hastalis, and the tooth has perhaps too much curve. New tooth on left, with two other hastalis (I believe): 3. I. oxyrinchus: the crown does feel more "blade-like", but the root shape just doesn't match, and the crown seems a little narrow. New tooth on right next to what I believe is an oxyrinchus: So, what am I overlooking? Also, feel free to correct any incorrect IDs on my comparison teeth. Thanks for the help!
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