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I found this trio of strange teeth in a bucket of Lee Creek fossil matrix. All 3 are slightly less than one inch in length and seem vaguely cetacean or reptilian. Of course, they could be claws instead of teeth. There are several other mystery fossils I found, but for some reason only 2 photos can be uploaded at a time, so I'll have to make a separate post for each fossil.
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Here are a pair of head-scratchers that I found i at LC. The first is from the Pungo River Fm I thought was a bivalve steinkern, but it is not carbonate, which one would expect in the lime layers of the formation (that, or phosphate, and itisnt phosphate). There is still some matrix on it. So that leaves me with maybe some portion of the bulla/ear region of a marine mammal, but that's purely a guess. The second is from the Pliocene Yorktown Fm, and the material appears to be the same as that of cetacean tympanic bulla. But it doesn't look like one, or like anything Ive seen from a cetacean. Any ideas? thanks
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hi all, Here are three teeth from the Pliocene Yorktown at LC. When found, I was told "pilot whale", which hasn't helped much. I do believe that they are from a tooth cetacean though. Could anyone hazard a guess as to genus/species? thanks in advance
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Well everyone, it's that time of year again. It is almost time the the Aurora Fossil Festival. I know many Forum members have attended in the past and I hope many more will show this year. Lots of fun and you get to search the world famous piles at the museum! Several of our local members will be displaying fossils in the community center as well. Hope to see as many of you there as possible. Saturday May 25th. http://aurorafossilfestival.net/
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Would it hypothetically be possible to buy land near the phosphate mine in Aurora and rent a backhoe and eventually get down to the formation? How deep is the formation? Thanks, Tyler
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I found this piece while looking through some matrix from aurora N.C. It appears to be scales of some sort. Any Ideas?
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One of my nice Lee creek mako teeth were sitting in one of my pockets with a few Hershey's chocolates with paper wrappers (don't ask why I was pretty hungry). after I ate them all, I looked at my tooth, and to my dismay saw that what looked like the ink from the wrappers had rubbed onto the root. Aside from the weird story, I have tried using a toothbrush with soap and water, to no avail. What would be the best way to get rid of the stain? I have attached before and after pics below. I know there are a few lighting differences, so I also put it aside one of my other lee creek makos that used to be a similar color as a reference to the darkness of the stain. Thanks.
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I recently bought some Lee Creek spoils matrix from @PaleoRon & have been digging through it here & there. This morning among the usual teeth, mouth plates & vertebrae I found this. No idea what it is. Sort of small.. 4 mm x 5 mm in size with one side covered with rings. Any ideas? The backside is just lumpy more than anything.
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I am offering up some Lee Creek micro matrix up for trade. I looking to trade mainly for other micro matrix, nothing that can only be sorted with a microscope please. I will entertain other offers as well. Adam
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I bought a "little" package of Lee Creek matrix from @PaleoRon recently. It came in yesterday & I started digging. Lots of teeth & vertebrae so far & I'm barely into it. I found this one thing I'm not sure what it is, but it looks cool. 11 mm in length x 6 mm wide & stuck to a rock. Pics are at 55x magnification showing top, both ends (sort of) & both sides (sort of). Wasn't easy to get some of the pics, but here they are. Not sure if its a coral or shell or just some ordinary oddity.
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I win a nice Supply complete Creek Phosphate Mine Matrix as a door prize at our fossil club meeting last night. It's a rainy cold day so I decided to go ahead and start searching The Matrix. Probably a little less than a third of the way through the Matrix here's what I found so far.
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Hey everyone! About 2 weeks ago, the VERY generous @AshHendrick gave a portion of his Aurora pile, straight from the mine! I put it around a wood frame in my yard, and have hunted it for hours almost every day. This will be an ongoing thread, I will prob not update every day, but at least weekly. This is the pile. It's bigger than it looks in this pic (about 5.5 x 5.5 feet [a little less than 2 meters i think]) What I do is I sift into the bucket, so I don't go through it twice. I dump it somewhere else. Day 1 Coral Fish vert I think this is coprolite, but I'm not sure Turtle shell Cool rock with turritella another turritella Big steinkern Sorry about the blurry pic, the only one I took of the ray teeth The shark teeth Find of the day shark tooth in matrix the shells. Appreciate ID's That's day 1. more coming
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So I had bought from a certain online auction site some Lee Creek mine microfossil matrix a while back... I finally got around to looking over a little bit of it this evening. Attached are what I have found so far without any magnification.
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I dug in the Pits of Pungo out front of the Aurora Fossil Museum for a few hours. Heres the haul. The shark teeth Phosphate nodules Coral Sea life burrows. Posterior lemons and coppers These teeth are sooo small I don't even know why I picked them up Bryazoa...? My favorites Some of those famous Aurora makos ( isurus oxyrinchus I think) What I think are posterior isurus oxyrinchus's though the one in the middle one looks like it has a burlette? meg? I would appreciate any feedback on these Two nice Hemipritis Double cusped carcharhinus taurus? Alligator claw core? Bird? Sea urchin spines ray teeth Fish/shark verts and partials. I would appreciate if someone s=told me the difference two of them stuck together Bone frags whale verts and frags Shells Can someone help ID them? I can't seem to find any papers or websites I also spent all my birthday money on their little gift shop. Heres what I got from there. I would be happy for any IDs for them. (I like things labeled) Dont know where from St. Claire. PA fern. What is the age and formation of this locale? Morrocan trilobite pyrite amethyst this is definitely my longest post even though its just pictures mostly
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Looking for some websites or papers on identification of Lee Creek/Aurora shells
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As part of our recent tour through the Carolinas, Tammy and I stopped for a bit at the Aurora Fossil Museum (Aurora, NC) to walk through the museum itself as well as to have fun playing in the "sandbox" across the street. The local phosphate mine dumps fine gravel from the mining process in a big pile (two, actually) across from the museum so visitors can hunt for fossils in the fossil-rich gravel without having to deal with the liability issues of coming to the open-pit phosphate mine itself. I'm not quite sure if the fossiliferous gravel represents the Pungo River Marl (Lower Miocene), the Yorktown (Early Pliocene), or a mixture of these and other formations at the mine so the stratigraphy is muddled and likely impossible to determine from this off-site location. We were in luck in that the gravel piles were "turned" that morning exposing fresh material at the surface. It had also rained persistently for several days so the piles were a bit of a sticky mess. I think this made it all the more fun for the young fossil hunters we met on the piles. I was only interested in collecting some of the finer material to look through back home for micro-fossils and so we made use of our sifting screens to remove the larger shark teeth helping the kids to increase their finds. http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/87495-epic-carolinas-roadtrip/&do=findComment&comment=950166 I've been busy since returning from this trip but I did manage to wash the sticky silt from the Lee Creek micro-matrix we collected from the piles and dry and store it for later perusal. I had to try a sample of this to gauge the fossil density and get an idea of what was hiding in there as this was a novel micro-matrix source for me (though it has been offered several times on this forum). I've been quite impressed with the density and diversity of mostly tiny shark teeth and other items I'm used to seeing in marine-based micro-matrix. There are some novel species that I'm not used to seeing in micro-matrix from South Florida. In particular, these nice little shark teeth with the cool side cusps were a welcome surprise. They are roughly 3 mm across the root and about 4 mm high. As these popped out of the first small sample that I picked through, I'm guessing these are quite common and well known by the folks familiar with this material. I'm hoping @powelli1 or @sixgill pete or @Al Dente might be able to provide an ID from the image below. Even more interesting that the shark teeth was what appears to be a claw core that also appeared in this small sampling of the micro-matrix. I don't know my claw cores very well--unless it is an enormous ground sloth core from Florida (still high in my Florida fossil bucket list). I don't even know enough to know if this would be from a bird, reptile, or mammal but I'm sure this forum will come to my aid and offer some clues to what I've found. In particular, @Auspex should be able to quickly made an avian/non-avian determination. As a size reference, this item is about 8.5 mm in overall length and around 4 mm at its widest width. Looking forward to another bit of forum-based education tailored to the items that have recently encountered. Cheers. -Ken
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Recently I finished sifting through 6 pounds of Lee Creek matrix. There's some stuff I found that I can't quite identify. Anybody that can help me would be greatly appreciated
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Can't find a similar looking specimen on any of the ID sites. The stipple pattern looks crabby to me but this doesn't at all look like the other Lee Creek crab claws that I have seen. These were collected in the mine and could be Early MIocene or Pliocene. Any thoughts?
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I had the pleasure of collecting at the Lee Creek Mine back in 2002 and am going through my finds now. I can't find anything similar to this tooth. In full disclosure, I plan to either sell, or donate, this as a recent move leaves me without space for my collection. Thanks Dave
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Found this in the Pungo River Fm of Lee Creek (Miocene). I'm pretty sure it's a Carcharhinid, and more than likely a lower tooth, but that's all I got. Half-inch in length, smooth cusp (even under micro), strong foramen, curved root base. Maybe there is a slight notch in the blade (left side, labial view), but I can't be sure that's not a nick. My first thought was Lemon Shark, but the tooth is too triangular, and the base of the root has a very definitive curve. Then I thought hammerhead of some sort. Photos in order: Lingual, Labial, side Ideas?
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Hafa adai everyone, greetings from Guam! Been sortin' through the collection and came across my Lee Creek bird finds. I have about a half-dozen bird vertebra. Does anyone know anyone who might be able to ID? I also have a large-ish bird vert from Calvert Cliffs. Thanks in advance!
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I put a low bid on this not thinking I would win? Then I did so I want to make sure this is what I think it is. It was labeled as squalodon, is this true? Should be here soon, until then here are the sellers photos, it’s from lee creek mine, Aurora, NC. Remember a fossil hunting friend of mine looked for one for many decades till he finally found one last year and was ecstatic. So o thought they were rare, but with the price I payed I’m starting to doubt that. I’m going to save y’all the trouble of calling @Boesse to the thread and do it myself.
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From the album Mexx's Megs
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Hi Guys, I'm looking at this tooth on an auction site and curious about the provenance. Sellers sometimes get their material from elsewhere , and the location information for them is murky, so nailing down the localities for SC and NC teeth is like ..... well, like pulling teeth really. This seller has said that this is an Auriculatus tooth from Lee Creek phosphate mine. Since I think the formation is too young for a ric, my assumption would be chubutensis. I have seen chub teeth from Lee Creek with very prominent cusps. Though this one doesn't seem right. The morphology of the tooth seems like it may be a SC/NC Angustidens ? I'm mainly looking at the slight re-curve beneath the cusps on the roots but I know that can't always be a good diagnostic tool. These are the only shots I have. Thanks, Brett PS. With the location in question I know that a positive ID is almost impossible but I thought I'd give it a shot. @sixgill pete
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The "Cone Whale" is now on display at CCNHM, Charleston, SC!
Boesse posted a topic in A Trip to the Museum
Hey all, Our collections manager and I have had a pretty busy week, and finished the first phase of the installation of the "Cone Whale" - a baleen whale skeleton collected from the Lee Creek Mine by Lee Cone (President of the Special Friends of the Aurora Museum). The specimen is the most complete whale skeleton ever collected from the mine, and was hauled out a few bones at a time over a two week period in Spring 2007. It includes a partial disarticulated cranium with an earbone (petrosal/periotic), left and right mandibles, all cervical vertebrae, most of the thoracics, and possibly a couple of lumbar vertebrae - and about a dozen ribs. The skeleton also has numerous shark bite marks, which just yesterday we marked with a series of red triangular markers. The new exhibit features artwork by yours truly, shark-bitten ribs in a magnifying box, and in the future will also include a number of specimens that the "Cone Whale" was preserved with. The "Cone Whale" shares a number of features in common with rorquals (family Balaenopteridae - the pleat-throated whales, e.g. humpback, fin, blue, minke) and gray whales (family Eschrichtiidae). The two families are closely related, with gray whales possibly being included within the rorquals based on DNA. Fossils like this hold promise to shed light on the early diversification of this group. The "Cone Whale" is a new species and was not represented amongst the fossils described in the Whitmore and Kaltenbach chapter of the Lee Creek IV volume - I've only seen a couple of other earbones of this taxon, so it is safe to say that this is the rarest baleen whale from the mine (and hence, a very lucky find). Lee Cone graciously donated this specimen to our museum in October 2016 and we've been painstakingly caring for it, and attempting to further reassemble fragments of the specimen. Turns out, Lee was nearly exhaustive in his efforts, and we've only been able to match perhaps 10% of the isolated fragments. The entire skeleton is highly fractured because it went through a dragline and was dumped - yet all the bones stayed in approximate position. Many parts were found by bulk screening of sediment. Come see the "Cone Whale" at College of Charleston soon - it opens to the public today for the first time ever! "Like" our page on Facebook or follow us on twitter for more frequent museum news and updates! -Bobby Boessenecker, Ph.D. College of Charleston Charleston, SC- 3 replies
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