blackmoth Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 16cm long, looks like some kind of Nightia nut I am not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntonia Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Looks more like a diplomystus to me but it's harder to tell when they're preserved like this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmoth Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Huntonia said: Looks more like a diplomystus to me but it's harder to tell when they're preserved like this. How to tell the difference between a Knightia and a Diplomytis, particulaly when the jaw is not so clear and distinctive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntonia Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 6 hours ago, blackmoth said: How to tell the difference between a Knightia and a Diplomytis, particulaly when the jaw is not so clear and distinctive? There is some difference in the shaping of the head and some other features, but the best way to tell is the distinct anal fin on diplomystus. Here's an image I found on Google so you can see better. Unfortunately your specimen is very worn and whatever anal fin there might have been appears to be missing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 I'm going to disagree here, and say this is a Knightia eocaena. The placement of the pectoral fins, the lack of a humped back, and the subtle forking of the caudal fin all point to a Knightia, rather than Diiplomystus. I was unsure at first, and thought it might be a Diplomystus as well, but the differences are there. 4 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyw Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Here’s a picture of one of my Diplomystus for comparison. The jaw, pectoral fin, hump back, robust gill cover plate, and anal fins are easiest diagnostic features for diplomystus. So I also believe yours is a knightia 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntonia Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Taking a closer look and reading Tim and Randy's rationales, Knightia does seem more likely. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Andy- Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Another vote from me for Knightia 1 Looking forward to meeting my fellow Singaporean collectors! Do PM me if you are a Singaporean, or an overseas fossil-collector coming here for a holiday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmoth Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 I noticed one thing standing out is the hollow cylindrical bone piece behind the orbital cavity, what is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Probably an out of place vertebra. 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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