pambosk Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 ok i found this today amd my guess it is a tooth or teeth of a mammal .. could be a goat or something, i found it on shore of a lake next to an ancient village site. when that village was thriving some 2000 years ago, there was no lake but there was a river. Also the earth's color at the spot was reddish which would mean mammals i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notidanodon Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Some sort of bovid tooth, I think just a regular cow 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacTheFossilMan Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 +1 for bovid. ~ Isaac; www.isaactfm.com "Don't move! He can't see us if we don't move!" - Alan Grant Come to the spring that is The Fossil Forum, where the stream of warmth and knowledge never runs dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas.Dodson Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Definitely bovid, I'd guess mooer chewer from what I can see. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacTheFossilMan Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Thomas.Dodson said: Definitely bovid, I'd guess mooer chewer from what I can see. Mooer chewer... ~ Isaac; www.isaactfm.com "Don't move! He can't see us if we don't move!" - Alan Grant Come to the spring that is The Fossil Forum, where the stream of warmth and knowledge never runs dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pambosk Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 hehehe thanks bovid includes also goats and sheeps or just mooer chewers? and what about donkeys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 33 minutes ago, pambosk said: i found it on shore of a lake next to an ancient village site. What country? General area? The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossilis Willis Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I can't help with the ID, but as far as I know, the "reddish colored earth" would indicate the presence of iron. But I could be wrong, it has happened once before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas.Dodson Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I don't have comprehensive experience of all bovids but I'm familiar with the most common ones at least. The family Bovidae includes a lot but in this case I think we can immediately rule it to the subfamily Bovinae. The overall shape and lacuna makes me think this. From there the common culprits are Bison and Cow. Exact measurements of the crown can be rather diagnostic; Bison are larger. It would help if you measured this. In cows the stylid is often lost as the cementum is lost. In Bison the stylid is thicker, more robust, and more strongly cemented to the tooth so it tends to remain. I can't see any stylid in this case which is immediately suggestive of cow with the other Bovine characteristics. Note that there's a similar tooth type in Europe in the genus Ovibos (muskox) that I don't have experience with. A quick search suggests they weren't present on Cyprus if that is where this is found but I could be wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pambosk Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 On 2/25/2021 at 11:21 PM, Fossilis Willis said: I can't help with the ID, but as far as I know, the "reddish colored earth" would indicate the presence of iron. But I could be wrong, it has happened once before. well of course, but i will at some point link to an atricle that says not only in the meantime heres another tooth i found 30km to the east moni formation. about tje 1st location is callled Pano Mantilaris and its main trade was metallurgy. one or more finds are metal statue of an ox or taurus. the horns are straight and face up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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