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Hi,

 

I have here a Dragonfly fossil from Germany. The fossil itself is just over 3". How would I tell if it's authentic?

 

Thank you,

Bellamy

 

 

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I might be missing something, but this looks like a consolidant enhanced carving.

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This looks more like "Art" than Fossil.   :( 

 

The way to tell is the total lack of veining in the wings, the 4 odd protuberances, and the lack of delineation in the body. 

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Oh lord.... um well..... first dragonflies have 4 wings, a longer body and a long tail....

I blew up the pictures as much as I could looking for anything inside the weirdly shaped outline that might even be pieces of a dragonfly but couldn’t find anything....sorry...

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There’s a lot of problems as the others have pointed out. I’ll also add that the thorax(midsection) is completely missing and the “legs” and body parts lack all segmentation. While not always visible on fossil specimens I’d also expect visible tarsal claws on such a well preserved “specimen”. If those appendages are supposed to be antennae those are also a red flag and shouldn’t be there.

 

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100% fabricated.  "Art", and very much in the impressionistic school.

I am not a fan of "argument from authority", but I am an Entomology professor and I see not one detail that indicated this is anything other than a carving.

 

Don

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This other one isn't any better.  :eyeroll:

 

I can make one at least 8 times better, and for 1/2 the price. 

 

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59 minutes ago, FossilDAWG said:

100% fabricated.  "Art", and very much in the impressionistic school.

I am not a fan of "argument from authority", but I am an Entomology professor and I see not one detail that indicated this is anything other than a carving.

 

Don

I’m not an entomologist, but I do know art! This, I agree is art.

 

 

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Thank you everyone. My friend wanted one and I was thinking of getting one for him. I don't deal with insects at all. I'm happy that I posted it here!

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If there ever was any sign of a real fossil in there, they have ruined the ability to tell by coating it and adding the etching around the outside. So best to assume it is completely fake (art). I've seen completely fake heteromorph ammonites carved into pieces of matrix from Morocco. Just carved and tinted with iron oxide color to simulate the real ones, but done poorly enough that it was immediately obvious that it was not real. The Moroccans are also fond of etching outlines around faint fossils (real ones), which in my opinion is damage, but that's another matter.

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11 hours ago, jpc said:

I might add, not even good art.... but art is very subjective

 

Truth! I have a few drop cloths I bet would sell well!

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Hi,

 

I don’t know how you got to see the pictures, the links are broken.

@BellamyBlake if you have deleted the photos of your host, we can have this result. And it’s a shame, because your post allows you to learn things...
 
Coco

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The pictures were broken for me before. But now I can see them normally.

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They work now!

 

Coco

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OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici

Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici
Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici
Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici
Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici
Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici
Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici

Un Greg...

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