Vertebrae id

[garyc]

Because of a recent post by @GPayton I went through a pile of unidentified bones and found three vertebrae that I think might be alligator or crocodile. These are from the Brazos River in Texas. Please confirm that these are crocodilian if possible…. @Harry Pristis @fossilus @Shellseeker 

here’s #1

Edited June 20, 2021 by garyc

[garyc]

Here are four photos of number two

Here are four photos of number three

[Shellseeker]

All look the same to me. No matter how beat up, If I see that forward pointing protuberance ,  I ID as gator....

[Harry Pristis]

None appears to me to be 'gator. 

[fossilus]

I've collected some vertebrae that look similar. I've tentatively called them holmesina??, based on similarities to photos on the web. (Not from a peer reviewed paper) @PrehistoricFlorida may know? 

[fossilus]

 

These were each listed as giant armadillo and I think have a similar articulation surface as your verts..

 

[hemipristis]

Anyone else see ball & socket for #1 and #2?

[garyc]

Thank you for all the comments. Unfortunately, Looks like there Is no consensus 

[jpc]

consensus on this, brought to you by the anatomy grammar police:  A single vertebra has no e at the end; many vertebrae have an e at the end. 

 

Cheers,

grammar cops.

 

[garyc]

1 hour ago, jpc said:

consensus on this, brought to you by the anatomy grammar police:  A single vertebra has no e at the end; many vertebrae have an e at the end. 

 

Cheers,

grammar cops.

 

Nowhere in this thread do I see misuse of the singular or plural

[fossilus]

Gary, just to be clear, these are 2 verts that I identify as alligator from the Brazos. The "ball" on the right of each is what (I believe) Shellseeker is pointing to in his post. I agree with Harry that yours don't really look like gator, to me at least.

[jpc]

On 6/21/2021 at 9:00 PM, garyc said:

Nowhere in this thread do I see misuse of the singular or plural

Oops, my bad.  I went through it too quickly and did not realize there was more than 1 vert.  Sorry.  (On the other hand, maybe others have taken note).  

[caterpillar]

Mammal vertebras for me

[garyc]

10 hours ago, jpc said:

Oops, my bad.  I went through it too quickly and did not realize there was more than 1 vert.  Sorry.  (On the other hand, maybe others have taken note).  

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[Sagebrush Steve]

11 hours ago, jpc said:

Oops, my bad.  I went through it too quickly and did not realize there was more than 1 vert.  Sorry.  (On the other hand, maybe others have taken note).  

But I did give you a thumbs up for what you said because it is true even if it doesn’t apply here.  And I had the same initial reaction as you.  Glad it was you, not me, who stuck his foot in his mouth.