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Fossil Shark ID help please.


hxmendoza

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Hi folks. 
My turn to ask for ID help. I’m more of a dinosaur tooth and fossil guy. 

My friend gifted me these fossil shark teeth. Can you take a look and help me with these? I own a couple Meg teeth and other Shark teeth, but these are giving me a little trouble, or I’d like verification. 
 

The first two (A) and (B) have a bourlette, but proportionately large serrations like a Great White. Except GW teeth don’t have bourlettes.

 

I believe (C) and (D) May be Carcharocles hastalis. Are they?

 

I believe (E) is a Mako. But what species?

 

Lastly, is (F) Carcharocles angustidens?

 

Sorry, no locality info on any. 
 

Thank you all for looking.

 

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A and B: I'd guess Otodus megalodon or Otodus chubutensis. Unfortunately, although cusps and serrations are typical diagnostic characteristics that can separate the two, they aren't 100% accurate and cuspless and cusped versions of both exist. Without locality info you'll probably never be 100% sure on them.

 

See this paper for more info. The transition between Carcharocles chubutensis and Carcharocles megalodon (Otodontidae, Chondrichthyes): lateral cusplet loss through time

 

You're correct on C and D, they're Cosmopolitodus/Carcharodon hastalis.

 

Do I see very weak serrations on E? I'm pretty confident it is also Cosmopolitodus and weak serrations would point to Cosmopolitodus escheri.

 

Without any location I'd suspect you're correct on F. Those round cusps are pretty typical of Otodus angustidens.

 

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4 minutes ago, Thomas.Dodson said:

A and B: I'd guess Otodus megalodon or Otodus chubutensis. Unfortunately, although cusps and serrations are typical diagnostic characteristics that can separate the two, they aren't 100% accurate and cuspless and cusped versions of both exist. Without locality info you'll probably never be 100% sure on them.

 

See this paper for more info. The transition between Carcharocles chubutensis and Carcharocles megalodon (Otodontidae, Chondrichthyes): lateral cusplet loss through time

 

You're correct on C and D, they're Cosmopolitodus/Carcharodon hastalis.

 

Do I see very weak serrations on E? I'm pretty confident it is also Cosmopolitodus and weak serrations would point to Cosmopolitodus escheri.

 

Without any location I'd suspect you're correct on F. Those round cusps are pretty typical of Otodus angustidens.

 

Thank you Thomas!

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21 minutes ago, Thomas.Dodson said:

Do I see very weak serrations on E? I'm pretty confident it is also Cosmopolitodus and weak serrations would point to Cosmopolitodus escheri.

I don’t believe I see week serration denticles. But with sharks I’m not well versed at all on what’s considered non-serrated and weakly serrated.
 

I tried taking closeup pics. Best I can do on them. 
 

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26 minutes ago, Thomas.Dodson said:


Thank you for the paper!

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I’m fairly confident that tooth E is Carcharodon hastalis from the Pungo River Formation, Lee Creek Mine. The matrix looks like the typical black phosphatic sand in limestone from the Pungo.

 

 

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Yeah, I'm not seeing the serrations anymore so I'd also go C. hastalis.

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