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Hi everyone, I was at the Herkimer fossil and mineral show last week and had the chance to meet Allan Lang (owner of Langs quarry). I bought a couple of bugs off of him, but this one with the label "Old Mountain France" caught my eye. I'm not sure if it's a French trilobite or from somewhere else, but I'd appreciate any info or suggestions on what species it is. The segments in the middle were broken off, so I glued it back in place.

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I think the first word is not 'old' but 'Ord', short for Ordovician.

'mountain' is actually Mortain, the area. 

Maybe. 

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6 minutes ago, Tidgy's Dad said:

I think the first word is not 'old' but 'Ord', short for Ordovician.

'mountain' is actually Mortain, the area. 

Maybe. 

Oooh yeah I can see that now, thanks! 

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29 minutes ago, Tidgy's Dad said:

I think the first word is not 'old' but 'Ord', short for Ordovician.

'mountain' is actually Mortain, the area. 

Good job, reminded me of "Les Enfants du capitaine Grant":D

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This one appears to be an unusual association of two different trilobites. The thoracic segments are oriented in the opposite direction of the 'cephalon' with the axis tapering rearward. The morphology of the segments is consistent with Ectillaenus. The cephalon is certainly an enigma! :zzzzscratchchin:

 

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23 minutes ago, piranha said:

This one appears to be an unusual association of two different trilobites. The thoracic segments are oriented in the opposite direction of the 'cephalon' with the axis tapering rearward. The morphology of the segments is consistent with Ectillaenus. The cephalon is certainly an enigma! :zzzzscratchchin:

 

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1 hour ago, KompsFossilsNMinerals said:

The segments in the middle were broken off, so I glued it back in place.

 

 

The first post says that he glued the thoracic segments back in place - could he have done it backwards?

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2 hours ago, KompsFossilsNMinerals said:

Hi everyone, I was at the Herkimer fossil and mineral show last week and had the chance to meet Allan Lang (owner of Langs quarry). I bought a couple of bugs off of him, but this one with the label "Old Mountain France" caught my eye. I'm not sure if it's a French trilobite or from somewhere else, but I'd appreciate any info or suggestions on what species it is. The segments in the middle were broken off, so I glued it back in place.

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Could you take a photo from the back, to see clearly the shadow area?
I don't know, it looks more like a composition, and not an association.

I see it too strange.:zzzzscratchchin:

In addition, I see differences in the erosion, much more accentuated, in the piece of the cephalon.

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38 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said:

The first post says that he glued the thoracic segments back in place - could he have done it backwards?

 

The puzzle pieces fit together well. Note that a few of the segments are visible under the mystery element. There is also a possibility we are looking at an optical illusion: an unusual fracture and repair that looks similar to the outline of a cephalon with large sweeping genal sines. A pygidium would be a better explanation than a cephalon completely devoid of any diagnostic features. mail?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmail.yimg.com%2Fok%2Fu%2Fassets%2Fimg%2Femoticons%2Femo71.gif&t=1628027886&ymreqid=23281213-8dc1-3cff-1c5e-19001c01fc00&sig=QUpFBrvyLSs7rAMaNZIWyQ--~D

 

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I agree. To my eye, we are likely looking at a pygidium, and so an illaenid seems an optimal guess. 

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1 hour ago, Fossildude19 said:

 

 

 

 

The first post says that he glued the thoracic segments back in place - could he have done it backwards?

I think that theres a slight chance I might have glued it backwards, but I believe that the way I glued it fit better than the other direction

 

 

36 minutes ago, Paleorunner said:

Hello.
Could you take a photo from the back, to see clearly the shadow area?
I don't know, it looks more like a composition, and not an association.

I see it too strange.:zzzzscratchchin:

In addition, I see differences in the erosion, much more accentuated, in the piece of the cephalon.

Sure. I also included some more photos of other angles of the enigma trilobite, along with some close ups.

 

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The last four photos capture the proper lighting and perspective, but the other three photos are even more illusory.

This trilobite should get an honorable mention as a particularly peculiar (and cruel) optical illusion! mail?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmail.yimg.com%2Fok%2Fu%2Fassets%2Fimg%2Femoticons%2Femo11.gif&t=1628030055&ymreqid=23281213-8dc1-3cff-1c5e-19004101fc00&sig=E_gJbhEiEAL5oSO_WQQGfA--~D eyepopping.gif  mail?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmail.yimg.com%2Fok%2Fu%2Fassets%2Fimg%2Femoticons%2Femo12.gif&t=1628030055&ymreqid=23281213-8dc1-3cff-1c5e-19004101fc00&sig=VUlfhPDsI.1ChVSecWG30Q--~D mail?url=http%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2F

 

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39 minutes ago, piranha said:

The new photos are much better!  Thoracopygidium: Ectillaenus sp. happy0144.gif

Thank you so much!

12 minutes ago, piranha said:

The last four photos capture the proper lighting and perspective, but the other three photos are even more illusory.

This trilobite should get an honorable mention as a particularly peculiar (and cruel) optical illusion! mail?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmail.yimg.com%2Fok%2Fu%2Fassets%2Fimg%2Femoticons%2Femo11.gif&t=1628030055&ymreqid=23281213-8dc1-3cff-1c5e-19004101fc00&sig=E_gJbhEiEAL5oSO_WQQGfA--~D eyepopping.gif  mail?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmail.yimg.com%2Fok%2Fu%2Fassets%2Fimg%2Femoticons%2Femo12.gif&t=1628030055&ymreqid=23281213-8dc1-3cff-1c5e-19004101fc00&sig=VUlfhPDsI.1ChVSecWG30Q--~D mail?url=http%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2F

 

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I like the sound of that last sentence... :zzzzscratchchin::BigSmile:

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