Help with rare ammonite.

[Paleorunner]

Yesterday I was taking a walk in my area of Cretaceous, and I found these two pieces.
At first I thought of misshapen fragments, of some kind of ammonite.
But at home looking at them in more detail, I realized that the ammonite is complete, (it hurts that they are not in better condition).
As I observe it seems that they are elongated, and crushed, and in a state of death, they folded. The most deteriorated one has a hole in the shell, in which the septa can be seen, and the other the sutures can be seen well.
The largest measures 2.3 ctms in its current state, (folded).
What kind of cephalopod can it be?

[Tetradium]

I was just looking through a book on Pierre Shale (Unrelated to your area). Look up Solenceras but I doubt its the genus found in your area - just look it up to get a general picture of what your fossil look like. 

[Paleorunner]

40 minutes ago, Tetradium said:

Estaba mirando un libro sobre Pierre Shale (no relacionado con su área). Busque Solenceras, pero dudo que sea el género que se encuentra en su área; solo búsquelo para obtener una imagen general de cómo se ve su fósil. 

 

Thanks for answering.
The only resemblance I see is being folded. 
My beam is not cylindrical, and it is getting wider,

 

I've been looking online, and I haven't seen anything like it.

 

[Paleorunner]

On 8/8/2021 at 11:55 AM, Paleorunner said:

Yesterday I was taking a walk in my area of Cretaceous, and I found these two pieces.
At first I thought of misshapen fragments, of some kind of ammonite.
But at home looking at them in more detail, I realized that the ammonite is complete, (it hurts that they are not in better condition).
As I observe it seems that they are elongated, and crushed, and in a state of death, they folded. The most deteriorated one has a hole in the shell, in which the septa can be seen, and the other the sutures can be seen well.
The largest measures 2.3 ctms in its current state, (folded).
What kind of cephalopod can it be?

  

Hello, @Ludwigia 

I'm sorry for your great loss., MY MOST SENSE CONCERNING ME.
I have not had luck finding information about this fossil, and since I know you do well with the ammnites, I would like to know what you think about this find.
Sorry for the inconvenience.

[Ludwigia]

Thanks for the condolences. Sorry, but I can’t help you with these ones.

[Paleorunner]

35 minutes ago, Ludwigia said:

Thanks for the condolences. Sorry, but I can’t help you with these ones.

 Thanks for answering.
Do you know of any member who can give me an opinion on this ammonite?
Kind regards.....

                             Paleorunner.

[BobWill]

Although I agree that your ammonites have been crushed in an unusual way they may have been in the general shape of  Scaphites to start with. They have that look of being crushed longways and are described as having a coil followed by a shaft and hook. I don't believe they are one of the forms with parallel shafts but they are considered heteromorphs.

[Paleorunner]

6 hours ago, BobWill said:

Although I agree that your ammonites have been crushed in an unusual way they may have been in the general shape of  Scaphites to start with. They have that look of being crushed longways and are described as having a coil followed by a shaft and hook. I don't believe they are one of the forms with parallel shafts but they are considered heteromorphs.

 

 

Thank you very much for the reply.
Being crushed, and not well preserved, he did not find anything like it.
Seen this way, being a kind of Scaphite gains weight.