majstor Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) 8cm long, 4cm in diameter Southern Serbia Edited November 26, 2021 by majstor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Enlarged, cropped and brightened: Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Hi, and welcome to the forum! We've got quite a few knowledgable members on here, so I'm sure someone will be able to help you identify the tooth However, in order to more easily do this, could you please provide locality and geological context - age, marine or terrestrial sediments, other things found nearby - or as much of that as you know, as well? It seems like quite a sizeable tooth, though, definitely a fossil, and going by the colour likely something like Miocene or Pleistocene in age. This would make it a mammal tooth, although it doesn't look cetacean to me (am I right in assuming so, @Shellseeker?). May be @jpc or @Harry Pristis would be able to help out? 'There's nothing like millions of years of really frustrating trial and error to give a species moral fibre and, in some cases, backbone' -- Terry Pratchett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majstor Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 7 hours ago, pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon said: Hi, and welcome to the forum! We've got quite a few knowledgable members on here, so I'm sure someone will be able to help you identify the tooth However, in order to more easily do this, could you please provide locality and geological context - age, marine or terrestrial sediments, other things found nearby - or as much of that as you know, as well? It seems like quite a sizeable tooth, though, definitely a fossil, and going by the colour likely something like Miocene or Pleistocene in age. This would make it a mammal tooth, although it doesn't look cetacean to me (am I right in assuming so, @Shellseeker?). May be @jpc or @Harry Pristis would be able to help out? Hi! Thank you for welcoming me... Unfortunately, this is all I can provide at the moment But, area where the tooth has been found is known for huge cretaceous deposits with oligocene beds scattered on top of it. If I get more information, I will post it for sure... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Thanks for the info! My first hunch of what this tooth could feed was mammal, so that's make it Oligocene, I guess... Are there any collections with fossils from this area in your neighbourhood. If so, it may be worth paying them a visit, if only to compare modes of preservation and maybe pinning down the age with more certainty... 'There's nothing like millions of years of really frustrating trial and error to give a species moral fibre and, in some cases, backbone' -- Terry Pratchett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Big tooth, it does not seem like whale. In my experience (mostly based on southeast US) there are a number of indicators that imply whale. One is the horizontal growth rings that appear in the root. Another is a certain amount of rugosity in the enamel. a 3rd is the overall shape of a large whale tooth, more bulbous root than tip.. I would think canine, thus predator. Sorry I can not provide more. 1 The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majstor Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 44 minutes ago, Shellseeker said: Big tooth, it does not seem like whale. In my experience (mostly based on southeast US) there are a number of indicators that imply whale. One is the horizontal growth rings that appear in the root. Another is a certain amount of rugosity in the enamel. a 3rd is the overall shape of a large whale tooth, more bulbous root than tip.. I would think canine, thus predator. Sorry I can not provide more. Thanks a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Just a guess -- maybe a senile cave bear upper. 1 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) If this comes from a place with Cret and Olig deposits, it is Oligocene. And I agree...mammal. I think this might be an incisor from a rhino-like beast. There were quite a few back then so I cannot get any more detailed. And I am not very familiar with the Oligocene of serbia. But, nice find. Edited December 2, 2021 by jpc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majstor Posted December 2, 2021 Author Share Posted December 2, 2021 On 11/30/2021 at 6:55 PM, jpc said: If this comes from a lace with Cret and Olig deposits, it is Oligocene. And I agree...mammal. I think this might be an incisor from a rhino-like beast. There were quite a few back then so I cannot get any more detailed. And I am not very familiar with the Oligocene of serbia. But, nice find. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fossildude19 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Topics merged. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 On 11/30/2021 at 12:55 PM, jpc said: If this comes from a place with Cret and Olig deposits, it is Oligocene. And I agree...mammal. I think this might be an incisor from a rhino-like beast. There were quite a few back then so I cannot get any more detailed. And I am not very familiar with the Oligocene of serbia. But, nice find. 8 cm = 3.5 inches. If I found something like this in my South Florida hunting area, I would be thinking Rhino_like based on size and width of the enamel. The additional photos are outstanding detail. 1 The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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