Sandfossil Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 I went hunting again today and need some help identifying. Muskogee, Ok near the Arkansas river. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandfossil Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 Constichus? #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 Brachiopod? #6 Brachiopod? #7 Brachiopod? #8 Brachiopod #9 #10 #11 #12 #13 Horn coral? #13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandfossil Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 I appreciate any help. Thank you for taking the time to look. I am trying to edit my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Hunter Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) Goodness, sooo many pictures, a lot of them are too dark to make anything out and will be difficult to reference each one without numbers. You can still edit and that would be very helpful. Which I'm doing now, I might even suggest breaking them up into groups of similar things and post those individually. Edited January 15, 2022 by Lone Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandfossil Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Lone Hunter said: Goodness, sooo many pictures, a lot of them are too dark to make anything out and will be difficult to reference each one without numbers. You can still edit and that would be very helpful. Which I'm doing now, I might even suggest breaking them up into groups of similar things and post those individually. Sorry thats at my kitchen stove. I can try going to a different room to see if the lighting is better. I don't have a computer so trying to do the best I can with this old phone. I am still trying to figure out how to post properly. Boy do I have issues. lol I will see what I can do. The number thing sounds great. Can I delete or should I try to edit? Thanks for your advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Hunter Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) Just edit if possible, feel free to ask questions if you have problems. It can take awhile to get the hang of everything . @Fossildude19 might have better advice on what to do. Edited January 15, 2022 by Lone Hunter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 @Sandfossil I edited out your duplicate images. 2 The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandfossil Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 21 minutes ago, Lone Hunter said: Just edit if possible, feel free to ask questions if you have problems. It can take awhile to get the hang of everything . @Fossildude19 might have better advice on what to do. Thank you. I was just about to throw in the towel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandfossil Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, JohnJ said: @Sandfossil I edited out your duplicate images. Thank you so much. I will try and do a better job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClearLake Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Not sure on #1 and 2 #3 and 4 look like sedimentary structures, ie not fossils #5 through #12 do indeed appear to be brachiopods #13 is a horn coral If we knew the age of the rocks or formation, it might be easier to narrow down the ID’s. Some good looking fossils there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjfriend Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1-2 I have no idea. Better light and additional photos would help 3-4 looks geologic to me but can't say for sure. 5 and 7 I would guess mollusk? 8-12 are brachiopods but I don't know the areas species at all 13 is horn coral. Nice finds! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 I think Conostichus is a good call for first images. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oyo Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Probably Rhizophyllum for number 13. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Please state where these were found. State, County/region if possible. People sometimes post things they found on vacation, while traveling, or from areas different from where they live. It is always a good idea to list the location found in the body of your posts, so we can determine what aged strata may outcrop in your area. Also helpful is whether they were found loose(float), or in a stream( possibly eroded from elsewhere, and transported to your location) , or directly removed from a rock exposure/roadcut etc.. 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandfossil Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 5 hours ago, Fossildude19 said: Please state where these were found. State, County/region if possible. People sometimes post things they found on vacation, while traveling, or from areas different from where they live. It is always a good idea to list the location found in the body of your posts, so we can determine what aged strata may outcrop in your area. Also helpful is whether they were found loose(float), or in a stream( possibly eroded from elsewhere, and transported to your location) , or directly removed from a rock exposure/roadcut etc.. I thought I had posted the city and state Muskogee, Ok near the Arkansas river. This is the location in which I live and hunt. Most of the fossils were found in some layering of huge rocks on the side of a mountain where the Arkansas river meets Spaniard creek and Brewers bend. Some of the large rocks are thrust upwards and are in layers. I do apoligize for my lack of knowledge of formations and periods of the area. But is known for sandstone, limestone and shale. Some of the items above were picked up in the pasture which is low lying on the way toward the mountain area.I read that this area was know for low warm ocean waters. I hope to learn more. And thank you for the advice. I will try to be more descriptive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Sorry - My mistake. I missed your first post. Here is a list of Geologic formations in Muskogee County, OK. (Blue text =clickable links) Here is a list of sites from THIS WEBSITE. Information is very old, and no longer accurate, as it was taken from old scientific papers/publications. It is a good place to start your research from, though. Good luck. 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 #2 looks like a geodized crinoid stem or similar. I don't know if the geological time and location may accept this. 1 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClearLake Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 It appears most of the bedrock in your area is Pennsylvanian in age, which makes sense as many of the brachiopods look like they could be from that age. #5 and #7 are not mollusks but are brachiopods, probably one of the Productids, maybe something like Echinoconchus. Several of the other brachiopods are also productids but #8 is not, it might be a Neospirifer. The horn coral is unlikely to be Rhizophyllum as that genus is from the Silurian or Devonian (unless you can find some rocks of that age in your area), but horn corals can be difficult to ID positively without thin sections or at least knowing the specific formation and what has been reported from that zone. You can go to the Dallas Paleo website and find sone good guides to Pennsylvanian fossils. Here is a link to the brachiopods section: https://dallaspaleo.org/resources/Documents/PGUPFT 1 brachiopoda.pdf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandfossil Posted January 16, 2022 Author Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, Fossildude19 said: Sorry - My mistake. I missed your first post. Here is a list of Geologic formations in Muskogee County, OK. (Blue text =clickable links) Here is a list of sites from THIS WEBSITE. Information is very old, and no longer accurate, as it was taken from old scientific papers/publications. It is a good place to start your research from, though. Good luck. Thank you so much. Hopefully I can get it figured out. Going to check it out now. Are all of those formations found in Muskogee Co., at the %'s listed? And how would I know which particular formation for the rock I find? Does elevatiin play a part? Thanks again. Edited January 16, 2022 by Sandfossil Needed to ask a question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandfossil Posted January 16, 2022 Author Share Posted January 16, 2022 15 hours ago, ClearLake said: It appears most of the bedrock in your area is Pennsylvanian in age, which makes sense as many of the brachiopods look like they could be from that age. #5 and #7 are not mollusks but are brachiopods, probably one of the Productids, maybe something like Echinoconchus. Several of the other brachiopods are also productids but #8 is not, it might be a Neospirifer. The horn coral is unlikely to be Rhizophyllum as that genus is from the Silurian or Devonian (unless you can find some rocks of that age in your area), but horn corals can be difficult to ID positively without thin sections or at least knowing the specific formation and what has been reported from that zone. You can go to the Dallas Paleo website and find sone good guides to Pennsylvanian fossils. Here is a link to the brachiopods section: https://dallaspaleo.org/resources/Documents/PGUPFT 1 brachiopoda.pdf Such great information thank you for taking the time to respond, It is greatly appreciated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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