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Is this a coprolite?


hahnewald

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Greetings to all. This specimen was encountered on a beach where common Miocene fossils, such as shark teeth, whale vertebrae, cetacean periotic bones and bulla can be discovered. It is the first one of its kind I have come across and would really appreciate input from members to assist with the correct ID. Thanking you all in advance.

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This looks like a coprolite reworked into a lag and phosphatized. We see them like this here in NC USA associated with abundant shark teeth etc in lags.

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44 minutes ago, Plax said:

This looks like a coprolite reworked into a lag and phosphatized. We see them like this here in NC USA associated with abundant shark teeth etc in lags.

Indeed, a valid concept. Caution is in order as an ID though I think.

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Indeed, if it was bilaterally symmetrical I could also guess one of those fish parts similar to a tilly stone or a hyperostosed? basioccipital bony fish part judging from the second to last pic. Just giving my best guess as a coprolite but as subject to disagreement as any of us. You said you didn't see any indication of it being a fossil and I presented my best guess as to what it is. I can be swayed as I don't feel 100% certain and welcome specific disagreements.:)

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It certainly could be a coprolite but it doesn't show specific details to clinch the ID. Being phosphatic, turd-shaped, and in an appropriate geologic context are in its favor, but organic inclusions would really help it along in that direction. 

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Agreed. That would be a clincher. Most here in the cretaceous of NC don't have organic inclusions though. Have very little experience with neogene coprolites.

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Sharper, not handheld images of surface details might be useful.

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@Rockwood, @Plax, @Carl, @JohnJ. Thank you all for your thoughts on this object thus far. It certainly felt like a fossil when I first picked it up. Consistent with  general mineralized black coloration, weight and texture of similarly sized fossil bones, odontocete teeth and perhaps claws or horn cores. Couldn't help but think back to my last ID query on TFF and the obvious groove running almost along it's entire length, visible in the 8th photo. @Carl, what you described, appears uncommon at my beach hunting ground as I have not found another piece like it before. Perhaps these non hand held photos will shed any new light. Appreciate the feedback @JohnJ. In the absence of recognizing any organic inclusions, 'turd shaped' remained my strongest indicator. 

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It looks like there are bivalve borings in the specimen. I can't rule out phosphatic coprolites with pholad borings (Gastrochaenolites), like the specimens in picture "C" below.

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Reference: Bivalve_Borings_in_Phosphatic_Coprolites_and_Bone_.pdf

 

 

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