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So there is this nifty oddity, I found it in my backyard pool decor rock bed. The first photo is the entire thing. Then i show them separately. I am sorry that I used the penny this time for size, I found my square for the next time..:DOH::fingerscrossed:

I saw someone else post a fossil like this one; however, I am a newbie and I have not figured out how to look for other photos yet.

 

 

 

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Seems to be a brachiopod, which puts me in mind of Paraspirifer (not saying it is, though). 

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  • Fossildude19 changed the title to Backyard find - I've seen this here before?

It's a nice specimen, but without provenance I can't say what it is though. 

It's not Paraspirifer though, or any spiriferid which always have a straight hinge line. 

This is probably an athyrid. 

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@Val Horn, I live in St. Louis Missouri. My new home came blessed with a giant oval pool completely surrounded by, what I call river rocks. Unfortunately I can not guarantee they are Missouri or Mississippi river rocks; although we do live less than 10 minutes from both of these rivers, and there is at least two rock quarries that sell truck loads of rock. But I also can not confirm what types of rock the carry. 

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:DOH: I guess that was not the way to try to tag a person? Lol I will get it sometime... I hope:duh2:

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:Jumping:Tiggy's Dad, I just looked up the images for Athyrid and those look exactly like what I have! See you guys are awesome!  Thank you so much for the help!  

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On 3/19/2022 at 11:57 PM, TinySpiderMonkeyNinja said:

:Jumping:Tiggy's Dad, I just looked up the images for Athyrid and those look exactly like what I have! See you guys are awesome!  Thank you so much for the help!  

 

Don't take it for granted that it is an Athyrid. That is @Tidgy's Dad's best guess. Without knowing the exact provenance of the specimen a guess is the best that can happen. There are many look-alikes in the world of fossils.

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41 minutes ago, Mark Kmiecik said:

 

Don't take it for granted that it is an Athyrid. That is Tidgy's dad's best guess. Without knowing the exact provenance of the specimen a guess is the best that can happen. There are many look-alikes in the world of fossils.

Quite right. 

It's definitely not a spiriferid, athyrid is most likely but there are other possibilities.

Mark, if you are going to talk about my posts, which is fine, please have the respect to alert me in some manner so that I may respond without having to accidentally stumble upon it.  

And it's Tidgy's Dad. I deserve my capitalization! :BigSmile:

Or Adam. 

Or Deirdre. 

 

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13 hours ago, Tidgy's Dad said:

Quite right. 

It's definitely not a spiriferid, athyrid is most likely but there are other possibilities.

Mark, if you are going to talk about my posts, which is fine, please have the respect to alert me in some manner so that I may respond without having to accidentally stumble upon it.  

And it's Tidgy's Dad. I deserve my capitalization! :BigSmile:

Or Adam. 

Or Deirdre. 

 

 

Sorry. I meant no disrespect. I have edited my post to reflect that.

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It has a bit of a Composita look to it. Both valves are present and nearly the same size. The shell is biconvex. The genus has a wide range, 376 - 252 MYA. More views would always help.

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Tidgy's Dad, 

I am so sorry, I am just now seeing my spelling error in your name, on my comment above.  I have a bad habit of mis-reading name spellings for some reason. 

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Cngodles, here are some extra views I took as well. There are some of the "packaging" I found it in too. 

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I would call that Composita, I actually found one over lunch, see below. The material stuck to the rock it was in is probably the shell. Typically the outside of these shells stick fast to the rock they are in. As there are often multiple layers of shell in Molluscs, you'll get part of the shell on the steinkern (the fossil itself, rock that filled the negative space of the shell after death), and the other part stays behind.

 

Having a biconvex shell, they are rounded and often fall out complete like this. Many other brachipods are more complex in shape and don't fall out in one piece. Brachiopods are typically a mirror image across the shell from left to right. You'll notice that the valve on the bottom is a different shape and size than the one on the top. In clams, the two shells are a mirror of each other, and the left to right shape can be very different.

 

There is an iOS/Android app called Rockd that is useful for figuring out the age of the rock you are collecting from.

 

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Oh wow! Thats so cool! See I stumbled upon the rick hoarders paradise when we bought this house... unfortunately I can not be positive where they bought the stones from, but I can tell you that I have millions of rock that I have not even looked through, and already I have well over 100 different of the common fossil filled rocks, and a massive quantity of rocks that I need to post to anyone that is good judgement if artifacts. I am not sure if this community is the right place for artifacts, or do they prefer we find somewhere else for things of that nature. With that all being said, lol thank you so much for the information, I am not new to picking up anything cool or odd looking by any means; however I am new to the actual prep of any fossil and knowing anything about them.  Haha! When I first found this one.. my guess was that it looked like a baby bird torso... lol

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On 3/20/2022 at 3:21 PM, TinySpiderMonkeyNinja said:

I guess that was not the way to try to tag a person?

Hi TinySpiderMonkeyNinja,

 

I'm new to this forum too, and far from an expert in anything here, but I have found the easiest way to tag people is to select a section of their text and choose the 'quote selection' option that pops up. Failing that, you can quote the whole post and then edit it down.

 

With the (incredible) level of activity here, tagging people is a necessity.

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5 hours ago, Geep said:

Hi TinySpiderMonkeyNinja,

 

I'm new to this forum too, and far from an expert in anything here, but I have found the easiest way to tag people is to select a section of their text and choose the 'quote selection' option that pops up. Failing that, you can quote the whole post and then edit it down.

 

With the (incredible) level of activity here, tagging people is a necessity.

Well thank you so much that helps so very much, even if I brought your total comment  with me! LolThats awesome! 

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