Jimbone Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Thoughts on these Mosasaur caudal vertebrae being shark eaten, partially digested and regurgitated? Images from http://oceansofkansas.com/mosapath.html seem to support this. Thanks, Jim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Some context information would be useful. Were they found associated, separately, geologic formation, etc. The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbone Posted September 27, 2022 Author Share Posted September 27, 2022 Yes, of course, they were found in the Republican river valley of south central Nebraska. These were found together and fit together nicely. Found below an eroding layer of Pierre shale after a heavy rain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 In my experience, some formations can vary widely in how bone is preserved. The minerals present can affect the chemistry in the rock...often, 'eating' away bone surface. If there are places like that in the Pierre Shale, it may be hard to differentiate between those eroded by stomach acids or acidic matrix. @jpc 2 1 The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbone Posted September 27, 2022 Author Share Posted September 27, 2022 Thanks, that makes sense, I found a gov paper (here) on the Pierre shale though broad, it showed mostly neutral and if unweathered it was less acidic. Calcite is also present in the shale but I read is only slightly acidic. I think a PH test on the surrounding matrix at the location will be a helpful data point. Also, these vertebrae found a few miles away in Pierre shale are in much better condition. Jim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fin Lover Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 How would you differentiate between ones that were regurgitated and ones that...made it all the way through the digestive system? 1 Fin Lover My favorite things about fossil hunting: getting out of my own head, getting into nature and, if I’m lucky, finding some cool souvenirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Fin Lover said: How would you differentiate between ones that were regurgitated and ones that...made it all the way through the digestive system? Size would have to be a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kmiecik Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 "Slightly" acidic shale over thousands of years can have a dramatic effect. 1 Mark. Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 bones from the Pierre Shale are notoriously badly preserved. No need to have them be vomitted or digested. Just bad preservation. There are exceptions, of course. But these look like regular ole Pierre Shale mosasaur verts. Great find nonetheless. Esp for Nebraska. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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