thewilliamsdigit Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Found in Arlington TX at Village Creek. We are thinking that this is a Crinoid Columnal. We have not found any that are still together like this though. When we did find some, they were in pieces and in Mineral Wells TX. Ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Alaska Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 is it segmented or spiraled? it almost looks spiraled from this photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewilliamsdigit Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 is it segmented or spiraled? it almost looks spiraled from this photo. I think it is more spiraled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sward Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Good eyes. Interesting little find. I wonder what those "flanges" are? I would not expect crinoid around here. You've got to go west around Mineral Wells, Jacksboro, Bridgeport, etc to get into the Pennsylvanian. SWardSoutheast Missouri (formerly Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX) USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewilliamsdigit Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 Good eyes. Interesting little find. I wonder what those "flanges" are? I would not expect crinoid around here. You've got to go west around Mineral Wells, Jacksboro, Bridgeport, etc to get into the Pennsylvanian. My husband found this one, he has great eyes for the small stuff. Thats what I was thinking too. Maybe it is not a crinoid. hmm. Also, I`m with you on the "flanges" not a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Alaska Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 could it be part of a byozoan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howard_l Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Can you get a picture of the ends, if they are crinoids they will have a very distinctive structure. Crinoids have been around from the Cambrian and are still alive today. So as long as you have a marine environment that would be suited to crinoids, you could have crinoids. Howard_L http://triloman.wix.com/kentucky-fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 It looks to me like the center column of an Archimedes bryozoan with a few pieces of the fans. Does the top fan have holes in it? "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"_ Carl Sagen No trees were killed in this posting......however, many innocent electrons were diverted from where they originally intended to go. " I think, therefore I collect fossils." _ Me "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."__S. Holmes "can't we all just get along?" Jack Nicholson from Mars Attacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 It looks to me like the center column of an Archimedes bryozoan with a few pieces of the fans. Does the top fan have holes in it? I believe the area they're in is Cretaceous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 Is it hollow? My initial impression is that it may not be biological, but instead it maybe something man-made. It doesn't taper at all, and the flanges are evenly spaced; I'd expect something of organic origin to be a little less "regular". Very hard tell from a photo, though. An end view would be helpful. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 (edited) OOPS! probably not Archimedes then. However I have seen things like this in the Penn. of KY, could it be a float? Edited July 7, 2012 by Herb "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"_ Carl Sagen No trees were killed in this posting......however, many innocent electrons were diverted from where they originally intended to go. " I think, therefore I collect fossils." _ Me "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."__S. Holmes "can't we all just get along?" Jack Nicholson from Mars Attacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewilliamsdigit Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 Is it hollow? My initial impression is that it may not be biological, but instead it maybe something man-made. It doesn't taper at all, and the flanges are evenly spaced; I'd expect something of organic origin to be a little less "regular". Very hard tell from a photo, though. An end view would be helpful. Don It is not hollow. I am going to load a few more images in just a bit. It is very possible that it could be man made. Indians lived all along this creek. Also, now that I look at it again, it isn`t very spiraled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewilliamsdigit Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 OOPS! probably not Archimedes then. However I have seen things like this in the Penn. of KY, could it be a float? I am not sure what a "float" is? Can you point me in the right direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewilliamsdigit Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 Here are some more images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewilliamsdigit Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 The back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewilliamsdigit Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 Last image. *Click the photos to see it large. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sward Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 With this latest series of pics, the item looks less "regular" as fossildawg had described it. The pic in post #15 shows some random "veins" that seem to run the length of the object. Alright Mrs. Williams, this is twice you've stumped the experts (I'm not including myself in this group) . First it was the tooth you found, now this find. Good job! Thanks for keeping us posted. SWardSoutheast Missouri (formerly Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX) USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howard_l Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 The end is not visible enough to see detail, I have posted a picture of typical crinoid ends, not all crinoids look the same but in general this is what the end should look like. If you have a hand lens or other magnification look at the ends and see if they look anything like these. If they don’t it probably is not a crinoid. Howard_L http://triloman.wix.com/kentucky-fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewilliamsdigit Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 I don't think it looks like those ends. I need to purchase a good macro lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 In the new pictures, it sure does look like a stick! "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewilliamsdigit Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 Hah! I didn't post a front picture again. It does seem segmented and is very hard. If it is a stick, I will feel very silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 See if it is attracted by a magnet. Sometimes metal parts can corrode into very unexpected shapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 A 'float' is a fossil that originally was found somewhere else and managed to get transported into another area, usually by water, or glaciers. I don't have a clue now after the new pictures. "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"_ Carl Sagen No trees were killed in this posting......however, many innocent electrons were diverted from where they originally intended to go. " I think, therefore I collect fossils." _ Me "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."__S. Holmes "can't we all just get along?" Jack Nicholson from Mars Attacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howard_l Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 In the first part of this post I think you mentioned that other similar pieces that were not as complete, try some photos of them they could show something different. Howard_L http://triloman.wix.com/kentucky-fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewilliamsdigit Posted July 15, 2012 Author Share Posted July 15, 2012 We just got back from Vacation. Sorry it took a little while to post an image. Howard, here are the Crinoid Columnals we found in Mineral Wells TX. I circled one that has notches on it. It seems similar. *Don`t laugh at my crummy circle skills. hah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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