A Fly - "Bibio angustatus"

[Quetzalcoatlus]

I was last summer on Berlin and photographed some fossils from Museum für Naturkunde. One was labeled as "Bibio angulatus". But now I see that absolutely none result appear in Google searching this name, so I suppose that is an error. Somebody knows the real name of this piece on exhibit?

[AgrilusHunter]

Hi Quetzalcoatlus,

There is an extant species from the UK called Bibio anglicus, it's possible they meant that. It is equally possibly that the identification is correct and we (you, me, and Google) do not have access to the manuscript describing the extinct taxa. Have you contacted a curator at the musuem about the specimen?

Edited December 22, 2012 by AgrilusHunter

[Quetzalcoatlus]

I asked in a dipteran forum and they said:

 

"Wing veins are more typical of Orthorrhapha than Nematocera. There is a discal cell and long CuA2 ending near wing margin"

 

Hence it's not a Bibio, but something else...

[abyssunder]

On 12/22/2012 at 4:19 PM, Quetzalcoatlus said:

I was last summer on Berlin and photographed some fossils from Museum für Naturkunde. One was labeled as "Bibio angulatus". But now I see that absolutely none result appear in Google searching this name, so I suppose that is an error. Somebody knows the real name of this piece on exhibit?

May it be †Bibio angustatus Heer, 1849 (march fly) ?

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[Quetzalcoatlus]

On 12/4/2018 at 3:55 PM, abyssunder said:

May it be †Bibio angustatus Heer, 1849 (march fly) ?

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That's a very interesting possibility! Thanks! A species with almost same spelling, and from same locality where is the museum... If only there was a single illustration of this taxa in Internet, for check if the piece is the same...! But there are none...

[Quetzalcoatlus]

Refloating this old thread. I've just find a page of the Berlin Museum for Naturkunde with the same specimen shown in my photo above and all the tags corresponding to the specimen.

https://portal.museumfuernaturkunde.berlin/detail/06cdbd59ecedb0db6757

 

By far this is the only one reference to Bibio angulatus in Google, excluding those done by myself when asking for this species, such as this forum thread.

Given that according to the tags the species was described also by Heer, the chance of being a miswriting from Bibio angustatus as @abyssunder suggested are very high. May I risk and label my photo as Bibio angustatus?

[JohnJ]

7 hours ago, Quetzalcoatlus said:

May I risk and label my photo as Bibio angustatus?

 

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